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Re: Biden finally addressing illegals
Sep 21, 2023, 7:40 AM
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They'll have them on the voter rolls in no time!
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That's the end goal all along...
Sep 21, 2023, 7:41 AM
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more democrat votes, flip the border states blue.
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Re: That's the end goal all along...
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Sep 21, 2023, 8:03 AM
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That's a pretty long term goal if so. By the time these people can gain citizenship, can vote, actually vote, etc etc, most of the people in office will be dead. That's an interesting plan though. Visionaries I guess.
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Re: Shorter term than you think
Sep 21, 2023, 8:17 AM
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On average, they have to get their green card after their application goes in and that is a year to two years, and then maybe 5 years later they are citizens. We aren't talking about 2024 or 2028. They are a non factor. I will probably be dead before they swing any red states.
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All-In [40368]
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guy at work just finalized his citizenship
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Sep 21, 2023, 8:56 AM
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took 10 yrs and a lot of money.
Immediately after gaining citizenship he had to take a drug test.
I'm not saying the process is right or wrong, but I was pretty surprised at the things he told me for money and tests and renewals, etc
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Heisman Winner [138319]
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And the deeply religious Hispanic demographic will vote
Sep 21, 2023, 8:45 AM
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Democrat because....why?
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FREE ###!!!***
Sep 21, 2023, 8:49 AM
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Handouts
Sep 21, 2023, 8:52 AM
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Special status....etc.
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Re: And the deeply religious Hispanic demographic will vote
Sep 21, 2023, 8:50 AM
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Because the Dems help them with public assistance for the transition and have shown to be more accepting of them being here.
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All-TigerNet [13240]
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They are criminals
Sep 21, 2023, 8:56 AM
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Would you do the same for people that "trespassed" on Jan 6?
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Re: They are criminals
Sep 21, 2023, 9:03 AM
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No, I would have shot everyone on Jan 6th that attacked the Capitol, the violent ones. I would have strict borders though. I was just responding to the other post as to why the Dems get that vote later on from the immigrants. Dems make themselves more accepting after they are here. MAGA people call them "bad hombres", or scream at them in publical and tell even American citizens of Hispanic heritage to go home.
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Projection... Drive-in style screen.***
Sep 21, 2023, 9:42 AM
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Re: Projection... Drive-in style screen.***
Sep 21, 2023, 9:58 AM
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It's sad, but it is factual actually.
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Like em or not, the Democrats have always
Sep 21, 2023, 8:16 AM
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Played the long game extremely well. I don’t like it, but I don’t hold it against them, if anything I have to begrudgingly tip my cap.
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Re: Like em or not, the Democrats have always
Sep 21, 2023, 8:19 AM
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They want to copy the Chinese handbook. Commies they are.
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Moderator repression***
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All-In [46904]
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So pretty much what we did for decades and why
Sep 21, 2023, 9:08 AM
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a lot of yall are probably here?
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Re: So pretty much what we did for decades and why
Sep 21, 2023, 9:14 AM
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Maybe we needed our immigrants more at that stage? I am not saying that is fact, but there is a debate there. Were the times different? Was the setup for immigrants different as far as costs and the problems? Maybe politics are more of a factor now? Maybe we can just get the best and the brightest from around the world and not bad hombres?
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The reason why it's a problem now is because of one main
Sep 21, 2023, 9:15 AM
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difference between the people coming over in the late to early 18/19 hundreds and today.
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Re: The reason why it's a problem now is because of one main
Sep 21, 2023, 9:41 AM
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Oh do tell?
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Re: The reason why it's a problem now is because of one main
Sep 21, 2023, 9:44 AM
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White Christians good
Brown Christians bad.
Am I doing this right? Please let me know if my MAGAt impersonation is incorrect.
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Re: The reason why it's a problem now is because of one main
Sep 21, 2023, 9:46 AM
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You’re doing one thing right and that is seeing only race in any problem. You’re a good little democrat.
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Re: What about Chinese and people on terrorist watch lists?
Sep 21, 2023, 10:06 AM
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They do not care!
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Oculus Spirit [79495]
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They will if things get a little hotter globally and our
Sep 21, 2023, 10:13 AM
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infrastructure starts getting hit.
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Re: They will if things get a little hotter globally and our
Sep 21, 2023, 10:19 AM
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That’s coming. This does not end well.
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Re: What about Chinese and people on terrorist watch lists?
Sep 21, 2023, 10:15 AM
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Why is issuing work permits now a national security risk, but not back when Reagan was running for office? Was Reagan was a liberal hack who didn't care about national security?
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He was wrong too, but he was under the impression
Sep 21, 2023, 10:19 AM
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that would be the end of the matter. Of course, you know that. You're a really bad troll.
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Re: He was wrong too, but he was under the impression
Sep 21, 2023, 10:20 AM
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You didn't answer as to why they are a national security risk today and not back then. Would you like to try again?
Did you vote for Reagan?
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Oculus Spirit [79495]
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You don't understand why Chinese and people on terrorist
Sep 21, 2023, 10:29 AM
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watch lists are a national security risk? Are you a child?
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Re: You don't understand why Chinese and people on terrorist
Sep 21, 2023, 10:34 AM
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What is different today versus when Reagan (who you supported) championed issuing work visas to migrants and allowing them to travel back and forth, thus opening the border both ways? Didn't Reagan win in a landslide with this policy?
Am I asking tough questions?
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Oculus Spirit [79495]
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You're asking stupid questions, and totally deflecting from the point
Sep 21, 2023, 10:47 AM
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I was making in my initial post. Probably because you don't want to discuss that aspect of illegal immigration. Not to mention, the situation we face today is nothing like it was in the 1980's. Do you think we live in a vacuum where all other variables stay the same over decades?
Would you agree affordable housing is a problem in this country? And if so, does letting in hundreds of thousands, if not millions of more poor people help or hurt that situation?
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Re: You're asking stupid questions, and totally deflecting from the point
Sep 21, 2023, 10:50 AM
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Affordable housing is a national security issue? 😆
Mortgage rates were 16% in 1981. Try again
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Oculus Spirit [79495]
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You're the one who said it was all about "Brown Christians
Sep 21, 2023, 10:57 AM
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bad". Why don't want you want to acknowledge the real consequences of unfettered illegal immigration? Do I need to put it into bullet points so you can follow?
Chinese/terrorists ability to cross the border illegally is a national security issue
Bringing in millions of poor people causes increased shortage of affordable housing
It further burdens a school system that is already struggling to keep the population literate
Also strains healthcare resources
Can you intelligently reply to this post? I just saw your edit about mortgage rates LOL. Maybe you'd like to comment on the price of tea in Japan too? Could you try to stick to the subject?
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Re: You're the one who said it was all about "Brown Christians
Sep 21, 2023, 11:02 AM
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Did you support Reagan for POTUS? Can you name a better POTUS in your lifetime than Reagan? 😆
Again, mortgage rates were 16% in 1981, which is the sane time period when the POTUS you supported championed what Brandon just did. So much for your affordable housing narrative, which we all new was you grasping at straws. Too funny.
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Oculus Spirit [79495]
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So you can't address anything in my post?
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Sep 21, 2023, 11:04 AM
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We all "new" it huh? So mortgage rates are the driver of affordable housing and not demand? Wow! LOL
You've deflected so much you've gone from talking about illegal immigrants to mortgage rates. That has to be frustrating to have such an inability to stay on point.
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Re: So you can't address anything in my post?
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Sep 21, 2023, 11:13 AM
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Dude, you're all over the place and flopping around like a hooked fish on a dock. Your affordable housing is completely laughable as an example of a national security risk. Why was it not possible for terrorists to cross the border back when your favorite POTUS championed opening the border both ways and issuing work permits to migrants?
Do mortgage rates have anything to do with "affordable housing"? I'll wait.
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Oculus Spirit [79495]
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Can you read? I never said affordable housing was part
Sep 21, 2023, 11:21 AM
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of the national security risk. You're talking about mortgage rates in a discussion about illegal immigration, yikes! Reagan, mortgage rates, Bugs Bunny, any other completely unrelated topics you want to talk about?
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Re: Can you read? I never said affordable housing was part
Sep 21, 2023, 1:55 PM
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I asked you what the security risk is today versus the Reagan years with issuing work visas/permits. YOU are the one who responded with "affordable housing". Now you're trying to back peddle cause you could not respond to the point I made. So what is the national security risk of issuing work permits today versus when this was advocated by your favorite POTUS back in the 80's? Still waiting, but I don't expect an answer cause you don't hVe one to give.
#checkmate
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Oculus Spirit [79495]
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I originally responded to your post insinuating the only
Sep 21, 2023, 5:22 PM
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Reason people don’t like illegal immigration was because they didn’t like brown Christian’s by giving you a bunch of very real consequences/problems associated with illegal immigration, while also pointing out that they aren’t just Hispanic anymore, but people who actively wish to do our country harm. You totally abandoned that conversation and started talking about Reagan and mortgage rates.
You obviously couldn’t keep up with the topic at hand, which is pretty typical for you. Now I’m just messing with you because I enjoy watching low iq people squirm. #checkmate lol
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Re: I originally responded to your post insinuating the only
Sep 21, 2023, 5:25 PM
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I want to know what national security risks we have today that we did not have back when your favorite POTUS promoted the exact same thing that Brandon just did. You can't seem to justify your hypocrisy.
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Oculus Spirit [79495]
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That's pretty embarrassing if you're being serious with that
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Sep 22, 2023, 10:13 AM
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question. Cartels? Chinese saboteurs? Islamic terrorists? What hypocrisy? You keep saying Reagan Reagan Reagan after I already said he was wrong. You're having a hard time here aren't you?
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Re: That's pretty embarrassing if you're being serious with that
Sep 22, 2023, 11:56 AM
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Seems like you and I are both in agreement. Things are the same now as they have been for at least the last 50 years.
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Oculus Spirit [79495]
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Oh yeah, other than several wars, 9/11, Chinese modernizing
Sep 22, 2023, 12:39 PM
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their military, the rise of cartels, and about a million other things everything is totally the same. LOL
HA CHECKMATE GOTCHA YOU LIL SQUIRMY FISH
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Re: Oh yeah, other than several wars, 9/11, Chinese modernizing
Sep 22, 2023, 2:08 PM
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Oh, so you think "modernized China" secret agent/terrorists would come into the country via our southern border rather than by commercial airline, boat, or even our Northern border? Do tell.
Did the 9/11 terrorists enter the country via our southern border?
#graspingatstraws.
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Oculus Spirit [79495]
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If they didn't want anyone to know they were here they would
Sep 22, 2023, 2:20 PM
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Do our special forces ride into other countries on commercial air lines, or are they a bit more covert? What do you think the huge flood of Chinese people is about?
Do I have to pick between the southern and northern border to be worried about? Can't I have concern about nefarious people coming from both? Am I destroying your narrative too much for you? I bet you can't even answer a single question I asked.
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Re: If they didn't want anyone to know they were here they would
Sep 22, 2023, 2:36 PM
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You guys never mention the northern border, nor do you ever mention our coastlines. You guys think a metal wall that can easily be breached will solve everything. LOL. Fact is. As long as a poor country shares a border with a wealthy country, people will try to get in. Facts baw.
As far as our special forces, is it normal for them to try and infiltrate areas like our Southern border where there are a lot of eyes looking on?
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Fighting inflation?***
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