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All-In [42197]
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So let's look at this McCarthy vote
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Oct 3, 2023, 2:54 PM
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Eleven Republicans voted against the motion to table the McCarthy vote just now, joining 207 Democrats in voting against McCarthy--they're even sitting with the Dems--while the rest of the 208 Republicans voted to table.
Eleven Pubs--just eleven--are about to oust their leadership and are voting with Dems to do it because they didn't get their way. For our Pub board members, how do you feel about this?
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THIS IS THE WAY TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AND
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Oct 3, 2023, 2:56 PM
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GAETZ IS THE GOOD GUY EVEN IF HE PAYS TEEN GIRLS FOR BANG BANG BECAUSE AT LEAST HE FIGHTS AND UNLESS WE HAVE COMPETENT LEADERSHIP IN PLACE WE WON'T KNOW WHAT OUR GOALS ARE SO THAT IS THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO DO BECAUSE DEMS ARE EVIL AND TRAFFICKING KIDS THAT HUNTER BIDEN GRINDS UP FOR PAINT AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ABOUT LASERS IN MAUI.
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Lasers on Maui? Are they on sharks?***
Oct 4, 2023, 7:31 AM
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Blue ones.
Oct 4, 2023, 9:31 AM
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Prevents friendly fire.
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So the ones who are trying to oust McCarthy for voting
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Oct 3, 2023, 2:57 PM
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with dems to avoid a shutdown, are now voting with dems to oust McCarthy?
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Yep.***
Oct 3, 2023, 2:58 PM
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Sounds about right***
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Oct 3, 2023, 2:58 PM
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Isnt it ironic, dont you think .,,,***
Oct 3, 2023, 3:13 PM
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I feel the same as if I was watching Joey Stalin
Oct 3, 2023, 3:04 PM
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and Jeff Dahmer play a game of Russian Roulette.
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Re: So let's look at this McCarthy vote
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Oct 3, 2023, 3:09 PM
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I think that it's a bunch of meaningless political theater. Doesn't really matter who the Speaker is as long as it isn't a Democrat. I don't understand really caring either way honestly.
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Wow
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Oct 3, 2023, 4:03 PM
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I know I joke a lot about people who post on politics boards who don't follow politics, but this really takes the cake. Do you just not understand how congressional leadership works? Also, don't rule out this house ending up with a dem speaker.
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Re: So let's look at this McCarthy vote
Oct 3, 2023, 3:15 PM
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Nancy Mace is a ####### disgrace to this state, and especially to Charleston.
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Re: So let's look at this McCarthy vote
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Oct 3, 2023, 3:46 PM
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Has she explained why she voted not to table the motion? This is an incredibly stupid exercise. Gaetz is a blowhard and grandstanding idiot. Mace hasn't met a TV camera she doesn't like.
Last I checked, no matter how conservative the next Speaker is and no matter what gets voted through the House, the Senate since it's controlled by the Dems doesn't have to take up a House bill much less pass the bill. I'm probably more conservative than McCarthy, but I'm also a realist. The numbers don't line up to get conservative bills passed by both the House and the Senate and get signed by Biden. You do the best you can. I'll lime up with McCarthy any day over the likes of Matt Gaetz.
So what's the point of replacing McCarthy? This is a self inflicted wound from the Pubs that the Dems are more than willing to watch unfold.
Watching this clown show doesn't do anything to encourage someone to vote GOP.
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Watching this clown show doesn't do anything to encourage
Oct 3, 2023, 3:49 PM
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someone to vote GOP.
That's not why they are doing it. This type of stuff plays to the far right which is absolutely going to vote. It turns off middle ground pubs because it's not about winning elections (if it was, Trump would have been gone). It's about waging cultural wars and keeping their gullible following scared. That's how they keep power
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Why should they vote? ITS ALL RIGGED REMEMBER?***
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Oct 3, 2023, 4:19 PM
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Re: Why should they vote? ITS ALL RIGGED REMEMBER?***
Oct 4, 2023, 10:43 AM
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Good point!
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Gaetz is jockeying to run for the Florida Governor job
Oct 3, 2023, 4:00 PM
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according to GOP Strategist Brendan Buck, who worked for House Speakers Paul Ryan and John Boehner.
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Re: So let's look at this McCarthy vote
Oct 3, 2023, 4:13 PM
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I think you might have answered your own question. Mace is very, very self-important. And she's ordinarily also a realist and a centrist from a purple district.
I think Mace may well have been creating an opening for herself, using "McCarthy's broken promises" as a pretext. My own from-afar guess (and a guess is all it is, but it definitely fits what we've both seen of her) would be she saw McCarthy teetering, realized he needed only a slight shove...and voila, splat goes the Speaker. Then the normally-centrist Mace can slide on over to the other side of the aisle, make some deals, and now it's her running things...and MAGA is cut out of the equation.
We're a tribal people, and especially in Congress, conscience tends to follow the bloodiest spear. Once she secures the Speakership, most of the GOP Congress would fall right in line behind her, and certainly enough centrist Dems she could probably get stuff done.
I'd think it's particularly like since anyone who is not MAGA has long-since recognized the very obvious fact that there is no successfully bargaining with MAGA...any more than you can cut a meaningful deal with the Joker.
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Mace just voted to remove Speaker McCarthy.***
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Oct 3, 2023, 4:26 PM
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Illuminati for speaker!
Oct 4, 2023, 1:41 PM
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I believe that's called bipartisan support.***
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Oct 3, 2023, 4:28 PM
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The dems want a dem speaker, probably Jeffries
Oct 3, 2023, 4:32 PM
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but the pubs wont vote him in. The right wacko arm of the republican party won't vote in a moderate so we won't have a speaker for awhile.
The republican party is a joke. Still much better than the dems, but there is no leadership.
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I'm not defending them...but how is it the dems place to
Oct 4, 2023, 11:05 AM
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clean up what republicans started? Had it been the exact opposite situation, every pub would have voted against the Dem speaker.
Gaetz caused a mess he had no idea how to clean up. He caused it, the dems aren't going to fix it.
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Oct 4, 2023, 1:22 PM
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Exactly***
Oct 4, 2023, 1:35 PM
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They should all come together and give more of my money to Ukraine***
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I think I've made it pretty clear in my other posts about
Oct 3, 2023, 8:41 PM
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this whole thing of how I feel about that "spotlight Ranger" d.o.u.c.h.e. Matt Gaetz. I'm certainly not a McCarthy cheerleader nor was McCarthy my preference for House Speaker back in January but I see no justifiable reason for what Matt Gaetz and 10 other Republican dumbazzes have just done.
This group of 11 Republicans went against the overwhelming judgement of their House Republican Party peers to include the overwhelming majority of the Freedom Caucus. What's worse is that these 11 dumbazzes gleefully allied themselves with the House Democrats, who hate the Conservative movement, to carry out their petty personal vendettas against McCarthy.
Matt Gaetz is a disgraceful, petty, backstabbing, lying piece of shid who is no patriot and I sincerely hope that he and the 10 other Republicans lose to primary challengers.
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Re: I think I've made it pretty clear in my other posts about
Oct 3, 2023, 11:38 PM
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This is what happens when you let a cancer fester instead of rooting it out.
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It ended up only 8. Even Boebert and Green voted against
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the dems, like always, were solidly aligned. Hell yeah we will vote with the loony faction of the republican party so that they prove that they can't govern. Works great before an election.
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Re: It ended up only 8. Even Boebert and Green voted against
Oct 4, 2023, 8:01 AM
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Pretty much for both sides, it let's you know they are much more worried about playing political games than being focused on the American people. Of course, I expect nothing less from the HoR at this point.
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You are correct it was 11 Republicans who voted
Oct 4, 2023, 9:10 AM
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against tabling the motion to vacate McCarthy (which would have ended this vacate nonsense) and allowed the motion to vacate to go forward. I find those 11 to be just as contemptible as the 8 Republicans who actually voted to vacate.
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Bob Inglis would be pleased with the plurality though.***
Oct 3, 2023, 10:01 PM
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Pretty sure that's the childishness he referenced.***
Oct 4, 2023, 8:43 AM
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He said partisanship for the sake of partisanship was
Oct 4, 2023, 9:04 AM
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Childish and bipartisanship was the mark of a leader. For better or worse, this was bipartisan.
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So was passing the spending bill
Oct 4, 2023, 9:29 AM
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Yet it cost McCarthy his job with this "bipartisanship" (which really wasn't).
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I wonder how Gaetz will feel if a small cabal of "moderate"
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Republicans (the ones he calls "RINOS") decide to adopt his tactics and make a bargain with the Democrats to pick a "moderate" Speaker that includes a House power sharing arrangement for their help. Things like giving the Democrats some committee chairmen positions and replacing conservative committee chairmen with "moderates"...
Ah... what am I thinking - Gaetz doesn't really care about the consequences of his idiocy - he just wanted to carry out his personal vendetta in order to be in the limelight. I still think Adam Schiff has the most punchable face in the House but Gaetz is sure giving him a run for the money.
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That would be great if it could actually happen.***
Oct 4, 2023, 1:47 PM
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Re: So let's look at this McCarthy vote
Oct 4, 2023, 6:09 PM
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McCarthy shouldn't have lied.
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