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Re: Utah players receiving trucks
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Oct 4, 2023, 6:59 PM
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I could see #3 happening.
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Athletic Dir [871]
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Lawyers will have that worked out, not an issue.
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Oct 4, 2023, 8:54 PM
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As for all the other stuff, been happening in recruiting forever. Kind of great it’s in the open and pretty legal now. Good for the players, Clemson will adjust ans be ok.
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Orange Blooded [3746]
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Not so fast my friend
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Oct 5, 2023, 12:09 AM
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As for all the other stuff, been happening in recruiting forever. Kind of great it’s in the open and pretty legal now. Good for the players, Clemson will adjust ans be ok.
EVERYDAY courtrooms all over this and most countries are full of folks litigating with and against agreements drawn by highly paid, well educated, experienced lawyers.
As a very learned, excellent attorney told me in Explorer Scouts told me over 50 years ago, “almost anyone can read the law, a good lawyer can find an exception to the law, a great lawyer can find an exception to the exception.”
Just don’t believe in airtight, metal clad contracts. Right folks can undo them. Just ask Tucker Carlson and Fox News Corp.
Some foolish booster or school or both, will lose all they have with crappy like this.
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Re: Utah players receiving trucks
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Oct 4, 2023, 7:22 PM
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Number 3 is going to be when they cry foul and act like they had nothing to do with it just like Georgia
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Orange Blooded [4685]
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Re: Utah players receiving trucks
Oct 5, 2023, 1:59 AM
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This is the first thing I thought of - UGA wants to take the hands off approach when they wrap the vehicles around a phone pole at 3 AM.
This is a major liability issue and I am interested how they work around that.
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What a mess the sport has become.***
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Oct 4, 2023, 7:24 PM
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Re: What a mess the sport has become.
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Oct 4, 2023, 8:12 PM
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I'm about done w it. All I watch is Clemson and even that isn't as interesting as it once was with all this junk
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Same.***
Oct 4, 2023, 9:00 PM
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Re: Utah players receiving trucks
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Oct 4, 2023, 8:37 PM
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Yeah I don't like it either. If you live in the Clemson area you have to have seen all the Clemson football players driving Challengers, Chargers, and Rams. Been seeing them for years. Every time I see that I just turn my head and hope they got them in a legit fashion(legal NIL or something). Saw a lineman or two get out of a Challenger at Wal-Mart the other day, and I thought, "I hope these young men appreciate the opportunity they've been afforded." Young man drives a car that most men will only ever dream of. I hope we can stay competitive "legally" in this wild west era of CFB. I'm sure we'll do it the right way.
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This just normalizes
Oct 4, 2023, 8:51 PM
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It. Went to Clemson in the early 80’s lots of nice cars parked around Mauldin and the high rises on that loop.
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All I care about is if Clemson is still able to compete
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Re: Utah players receiving trucks
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Oct 4, 2023, 9:12 PM
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As to 3, NIL is not connected to university.
If a player likes Clemson And he likes Utah, "He is not the kind of player we want." because he wanted a truck. Maybe his family is poor. Maybe he does not have a dependable vehicle.
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This sport is slipping away and jumping the shark. I'm
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Oct 4, 2023, 9:13 PM
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glad we won our national titles and runner-ups during the last traditional years. Caring less and less each day now.
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I'm going to apologize to everyone and beg
Oct 5, 2023, 11:48 AM
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forgiveness when I see you all at the Tigernet cookout, LOL.
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Re: Utah players receiving trucks
Oct 5, 2023, 7:04 AM
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I would bet this makes them easy targets in a driving billboard for them to be robbed or taken advantage of.
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Orange Blooded [4804]
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They are not giving away trucks.
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Oct 5, 2023, 7:12 AM
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They are paying for a lease on the trucks that’s renewable every six months. If they meet criteria they will pay the lease for another six months.
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Dodge***
Oct 5, 2023, 7:25 AM
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Re: Utah players receiving trucks
Oct 5, 2023, 7:29 AM
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Reminds me of a story a co-worker told me one time. He grew up in Liberty and said a guy he went to the school with was being recruited by Alabama. That guy went there one weekend on a visit and came back driving a brand new corvette. This would have been back in the late 80’s to early 90’s. I do remember he said he owned a bar in Tuscaloosa now. So basically now it’s just a legal way of doing it.
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Waiting for Tom Winkopp to
Oct 5, 2023, 8:04 AM
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provide free housing and amenities for those already with an NIL contract.
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Re: Utah players receiving trucks
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Oct 5, 2023, 8:38 AM
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Seems like this would open someone up to a great deal of potential liability.
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Does the school have anything to do with NIL? I thought that
Oct 5, 2023, 9:20 AM
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was all outside dealings.
BTW.. this has been the fear from the moment it was voted on. The larger markets will rule college football in a handful of years. ITs just the way it is. When they eliminated the blanket of amateur (non paid) status across the board they eliminated competition and parity among all teams. Now it will be the big market guys who lead the charge b/c they have more to offer. They'll have the better coaches, facilities, toys, and the better players will follow. Its already happening. You see Texas, Southern Cal, Miami, etc. all starting to creep back into the elite levels. This is NIL driven.
Thank you Gavin Newsome. You've ruined college sports.
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Re: Uh oh
Oct 5, 2023, 2:53 PM
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The trucks are being paid for and by an nil collective. Not the university. But I've had a few company vehicles in my life. My 1st thought was, I wonder if the players are technically employees of the collective? For insurance purposes.
Also, are these players in turn, raising $ for the collective? The lawyers on here can explain it better.
I believe gifts are taxable? Are they employees?
Dang, my head hurts. Round and round we go
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Re: Utah players receiving trucks
Oct 5, 2023, 3:03 PM
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1. Why does it need to end?
2. Why do we only want kids who ignore their value and only want to give away their talent, hard work, blood sweat and tears and risk injury for little in return compared to the value they produce?
3. I doubt the car is in anyone's name other than the athlete and they likely pay their own insurance. Liability would be on the insurance.
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If you think the player is paying the insurance , you are
Oct 5, 2023, 3:22 PM
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very naive.
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Legend [19620]
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Either way, the insurance would be liable.
Oct 5, 2023, 3:28 PM
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The Collective would be no more liable than CBS for any wreck in a car won on the Price is Right.
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