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TNET: Clemson AD announces head coach change in men's tennis
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Apr 27, 2023, 4:02 PM
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Re: TNET: Clemson AD announces head coach change in men's tennis
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Apr 27, 2023, 4:10 PM
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Next please.***
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Apr 27, 2023, 4:15 PM
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Shut up please
Apr 28, 2023, 1:04 AM
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1-11 ACC record gets you canned. 14-6 ACC record means you have a solid program.
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You shut up. Brownell going 14-6 means the ACC was insanely weak.
Apr 28, 2023, 10:31 AM
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Morehead State says hey, genius.
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Re: You shut up. Brownell going 14-6 means the ACC was insanely weak.
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Apr 28, 2023, 10:37 AM
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Orange Blooded [2853]
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The ACC is the ACC
Apr 28, 2023, 10:41 AM
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And will always be the ACC. Ten consecutive winning seasons. Never been done at Clemson before. Comparing CBB to a floundering tennis coach is a ridiculous and childish stretch. How about support the program instead of constantly wishing for the coach to get fired?
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Men’s basketball is winning
Apr 28, 2023, 1:05 AM
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Men’s tennis is not winning
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Hugely important hire
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Apr 27, 2023, 4:12 PM
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Hopefully Neff really goes after a proven winner. Weiss was only an assistant at a mediocre Alabama program before he was hired. We need to aim higher than that.
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Re: Hugely important hire
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Apr 27, 2023, 4:26 PM
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I agree!
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Unfortunately, Clemson has a history...
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Apr 27, 2023, 4:45 PM
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when it comes to hiring coaches that involves setting a budget and then going out and finding someone who will accept the job for the amount of money Clemson is willing to pay rather than committing to the program by hiring the best possible candidate available.
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Yeah they did that with the last two hires
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Apr 27, 2023, 4:50 PM
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And also with volleyball.
Maybe that changes with Neff? Speaking of which is this Neff’s first head coaching hire? Or second with gymnastics
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Re: Yeah they did that with the last two hires
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Apr 27, 2023, 4:57 PM
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Tbh it’s mainly recruiting
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Apr 27, 2023, 5:12 PM
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The best coaches have pipelines to good talent they can consistently bring in and cultivate.
There’s a thing called UTR (universal tennis rating” which rates players ability based on their results with a scale and if you look at college team’s cumulative UTRs compared to the team’s rankings, it’s usually not that far off.
There are some players who improve a lot in college but a lot of the time the players are mostly already molded by all the junior coaching.
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Re: Tbh it’s mainly recruiting
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Apr 27, 2023, 5:20 PM
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Tennis is largely about recruiting and managing those
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Apr 27, 2023, 6:12 PM
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players and the overall roster over time. It's a pipeline thing, as previously said. Different coaches have different philosophies on where to find talent then usually stick within those lines.
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Exactly. That’s something we haven’t had
Apr 27, 2023, 6:30 PM
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While other schools have evident pipelines
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immediately expected a T_I_P reply
Apr 27, 2023, 11:38 PM
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not disappointed. fist pump
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Re: TNET: Clemson AD announces head coach change in men's tennis
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Apr 27, 2023, 4:34 PM
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…Neff fires Brownell and hires any basketball coach with skills to make us relevant. Oh, well…
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So the Tennis coach was on a much shorter leash than Brownell?***
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Apr 27, 2023, 4:46 PM
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Re: So the Tennis coach was on a much shorter leash than Brownell?***
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Apr 27, 2023, 5:03 PM
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I guess we are a Tennis school now…
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Re: So the Tennis coach was on a much shorter leash than Brownell?***
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Apr 27, 2023, 5:27 PM
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Well take a look at his conference record. 5-24 overall (4 yrs) and 1-11 this year. That’s getting into the territory of the former women’s basketball coach. Glad to see Neff pulling the plug. They may make another budget hire, which I can understand because the AD budget doesn’t come from trees that grow money. However, trying someone new isn’t likely to get worse.
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Re: So the Tennis coach was on a much shorter leash than Brownell?***
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Apr 27, 2023, 6:07 PM
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As T_I_P stated, if we don't bring in a proven recruiter then we may as well kept Weiss. Fact is, what difference is it to finish 1-11 in league play or 8-4 and be a bubble team. None imo. Every program should be about post season play.
So Brad having a good conference record is irrelevant.
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Re: Neff still thinks Clownell & our BB team made the NCAA Tourn
Apr 27, 2023, 8:13 PM
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If Neff won't fire Brownell after taking an actual NCAA tournament team to the NIT and lose in the first round, he isn't going to fire Brownell regardless of how his teams play!!!
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Re: So the Tennis coach was on a much shorter leash than Brownell?***
Apr 27, 2023, 7:59 PM
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The tennis team was 1-11 in ACC play his year while the basketball team finished 4h in the conference. If you don’t see the difference then perhaps you are the problem
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I reckon
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Apr 27, 2023, 5:13 PM
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he should've rubbed Brownell's head more, for better luck. 
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Its like Neff picks and chooses what sport to put up with...
Apr 27, 2023, 6:34 PM
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mediocrity. Do nothing for 13 years and you are retained. Underperform for 4 years? You're out.
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I would say men’s tennis has been below mediocre
Apr 27, 2023, 8:28 PM
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5-34 was his ACC record
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Re: TNET: Clemson AD announces head coach change in men's tennis
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Apr 27, 2023, 7:03 PM
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"we feel strongly that we have every resource to make this one of the top programs in the nation.”
So Neff thinks this is important for tennis, but long term mediocrity in basketball is perfectly acceptable. Let's hang on to a coach with no conference championships, and few NCAA tournament appearances, and let's pretend we're a big boy NCAA tournament team and lose in the first round of the little boy consolation NIT tournament. I have zero confidence in this guy's judgment. He's had not one, but two chances to fire Brad and bring some life back into Clemson basketball, and just won't pull the trigger.
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Re: So was this the head coaches"fault"?
Apr 27, 2023, 7:16 PM
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I'm sure he did not "love" hearing this news.
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Re: TNET: Clemson AD announces head coach change in men's tennis
Apr 27, 2023, 8:36 PM
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He shows he can shoot, but his aim is way off. A little more toward Littlejohn.
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Re: TNET: Clemson AD announces head coach change in men's tennis
Apr 27, 2023, 8:57 PM
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We see AD Neff’s mindset. Brownell better be watching himself.
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Re: TNET: Clemson AD announces head coach change in men's tennis
Apr 28, 2023, 9:38 AM
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Let's bring Lawson Duncan to coach the team! We were in a couple of Freshman classes together, but then he went pro.
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