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Turnovers are something that's not being mentioned
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Turnovers are something that's not being mentioned

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Sep 7, 2023, 10:54 AM

Among all the angst over the transfer portal, NIL, in-house hires, and talent/development, something that is being overlooked is plain old poor execution. Here are Clemson's turnovers for the last 8 games:

Syracuse - 4
Notre Dame - 2
Louisville - 3
Miami - 3
South Carolina - 3
North Carolina - 0
Tennessee - 2
Duke - 3

Clemson's record in these games: 4-4.

I think this is the issue where Dabo deserves the most criticism. Fixing that would help solve a lot of problems, especially considering how they are mostly unforced errors, and were extremely costly, against Duke and South Carolina in particular.

Fixing this wouldn't solve all the problems, but is sure would solve a lot.

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Portal players dont fumble.***

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Sep 7, 2023, 10:55 AM



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Especially when they're playing against Clemson.

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Sep 7, 2023, 11:08 AM

Punters are Ray Guy candidates, and kickers kick 60+ yard clutch field goals.

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Sep 7, 2023, 10:57 AM

Yea this is pretty glaring to see. Our record is traditionally pretty strong when we win the turnover battle. We need to clean that up for sure.

Syracuse last year could’ve easily been a similar result to last Monday if they had capitalized better.

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I view the missed FGs as turnovers too***

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Sep 7, 2023, 11:03 AM



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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Re: I view the missed FGs as turnovers too***

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Sep 7, 2023, 11:05 AM

Especially when the protection unit isn't blocking.

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Sep 7, 2023, 11:09 AM [ in reply to I view the missed FGs as turnovers too*** ]

Sliding before you get the first down could be thrown in there as well.

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Are you counting failed conversions on 4th down as turnovers?***

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Sep 7, 2023, 11:09 AM [ in reply to I view the missed FGs as turnovers too*** ]

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Absolutely!***


Sep 7, 2023, 11:12 AM



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Turnovers are the #1 reason we lost to SCar 2009-2013.***

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Sep 7, 2023, 11:07 AM

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Sep 7, 2023, 11:20 AM

tdqtiger said:

Among all the angst over the transfer portal, NIL, in-house hires, and talent/development, something that is being overlooked is plain old poor execution. Here are Clemson's turnovers for the last 8 games:

Syracuse - 4
Notre Dame - 2
Louisville - 3
Miami - 3
South Carolina - 3
North Carolina - 0
Tennessee - 2
Duke - 3

Clemson's record in these games: 4-4.

I think this is the issue where Dabo deserves the most criticism. Fixing that would help solve a lot of problems, especially considering how they are mostly unforced errors, and were extremely costly, against Duke and South Carolina in particular.

Fixing this wouldn't solve all the problems, but is sure would solve a lot.




You identified the condition, not the cause. Two critical game changing fumbles were caused by poor OL play. Our OL got beat on both of them.

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Sep 7, 2023, 8:48 PM

I disagree. None of those hits should have caused a fumble.

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Sep 9, 2023, 12:17 PM

For comparison, her are the turnovers from the 8 games prior:

Iowa State - 1
Georgia Tech - 1
Furman - 2
Louisiana Tech - 1
Wake Forest - 0
NC State - 0
Boston College - 1
Florida St. - 1

Clemson's record: 8-0.

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