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Two changes that should and need to take place in college football:
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Jan 2, 2024, 9:27 AM
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1. the transfer portal doesn't open until after bowl season
2. Heisman voting and ceremony should be post-season
We don't have the "what ifs" arguments like FSU if the portal doesn't open early, and Penix would've won the Heisman in a landslide.
So would Deshaun and Trevor, IMO.
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There would still be opt-outs...
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Jan 2, 2024, 9:32 AM
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and the kids who are planning to transfer, would likely decline to play in the bowl games.
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Re: There would still be opt-outs...
Jan 2, 2024, 10:12 AM
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I am predicting the opt outs start next year when 12 team playoff starts. Too much to gain from a command performance for those teams. After that does it really matter?
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That's why there are those who maintain...
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Jan 2, 2024, 10:23 AM
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that all of the bowl games not part of the CFP should be eliminated.
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Or, move all of the non-play off bowls to April as the spring game
Jan 2, 2024, 12:06 PM
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Does anyone want to see the Weedwhacker Bowl other than the two teams playing in it?
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Just eliminate them entirely or...
Jan 2, 2024, 12:23 PM
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use them as venues for the first couple of rounds of the playoffs. That suggestion will work better once the CFP expands further.
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Re: Or, move all of the non-play off bowls to April as the spring game
Jan 2, 2024, 3:26 PM
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Yes, people evidently want to see these games. They are still profitable for ESPN. Why eliminate them? More entertaining than most other things on tv/streaming over the holidays.
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Need a commissioner, This will happen when...
Jan 2, 2024, 12:31 PM
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... those 50+/- teams form their own governing body for football.
They will agree on regulations for ...
1. compensation of athletes.
2. transferring from one school to another
3. playoff format
4. etc.
Until then, chaos reigns.
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NIL should be tied to games played and progress toward graduation***
Jan 2, 2024, 1:04 PM
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There may be more opt-outs. Think about this .....
Jan 2, 2024, 10:37 AM
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If you make the CFP in the future, you have to play in a minimum of 3 playoff games, and maybe 4 if your teams plays for the Natty. That many games will persuade a lot more NFL prospects to sit out. It's one thing to risk 2 extra games, but 3 or 4? No way.
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Re: There may be more opt-outs. Think about this .....
Jan 2, 2024, 12:58 PM
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Maybe maybe not. I think the NFL scouts like to see big game experience. So I think it would be a mix. Sure bet seniors and those in tenuous injury situations might sit out, but the earlier guys who want to try after one good junior or sophomore season might see a lot of value in proving their big game creds. If they were not hurt by then they are not likely to be.
Plus, I do know a scout for the Buffalo Bills. He told me he likes to see them play in the bowls, especially the CFP. It shows players that can assume risks and play tough under big-game pressure.
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Re: There would still be opt-outs...
Jan 2, 2024, 3:21 PM
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Wondering if the 12 game playoffs will help curtail this.
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Contracts for all players is the only way to somewhat put a damper on.....
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Jan 2, 2024, 9:50 AM
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opt-outs and transfering.
at the very least make it at least a financial punishment for both.
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Re: Contracts for all players is the only way to somewhat put a damper on.....
Jan 2, 2024, 12:59 PM
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Maybe like if you transfer you have to payback your scholarship money.
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Re: Two changes that should and need to take place in college football:
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Jan 2, 2024, 10:11 AM
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And....
Either you get to transfer just one time (unless a change at HC) or if you transfer you must stay there for 2 years if you got 2 years of eligibility left.
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Only 2 Changes? I can rattle off at least 10-15***
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Jan 2, 2024, 10:13 AM
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Re: Only 2 Changes? I can rattle off at least 10-15***
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Jan 2, 2024, 10:14 AM
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The floor is yours.
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OK.....Based on NIL and the Portal staying...
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Jan 2, 2024, 10:28 AM
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1. Expand the Playoff to at least 24 teams like FCS to decrease opt-out
2. Have a consolation tourney like the NIT for the next 24 out.
3. The Portal Cannot Open until all Bowls have been played
4. Go Back to NSD in February and not December
5. Go back to players having to sit out a year if they transfer and have not graduated
6. Modify the targeting rule to a level one and level 2. Level one doesn't require ejection.
7. Return the play clock to stopping after every first down
8. Enforce strong the poaching of players that aren't in the portal. Make some examples
9. Allow Players to return to CFB if they don't like where they were drafted in the NFL
10. Require injured players to sit out an entire series to mitigate fake injuries.
That's 10..
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11. End the Woohoo
12. Return the missing piece of Howards Rock
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Re: OK.....Based on NIL and the Portal staying...
Jan 2, 2024, 10:35 AM
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Good list. Somewhere is there should be additional instant replay additions to overcome clear and obvious mistakes made by the refs including missed calls or bad calls.
Also, you'd need to fix the NFL draft to mitigate damage to NFL teams for picking a player who decided to return to college after being drafted.
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That Sounds Reasonable...It works in Baseball
Jan 2, 2024, 10:39 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, college players have the option of returning to college based on how they did in the MLB draft
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Re: OK.....Based on NIL and the Portal staying...
Jan 2, 2024, 12:16 PM
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Good list. Somewhere is there should be additional instant replay additions to overcome clear and obvious mistakes made by the refs including missed calls or bad calls.
Also, you'd need to fix the NFL draft to mitigate damage to NFL teams for picking a player who decided to return to college after being drafted.
I had a thought about that during this discussion's player needs to inform the NFL of what round drafted he is willing to make the move. For example, if the player says he will return to college if he drafted lower than the second round then any NFL team that spends a draft space on something lower than the college players declared level then that's on the NFL.
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Re: OK.....Based on NIL and the Portal staying...
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I agree with most of that but I def wanna see changes to the clock rules… I’m even fine with them keeping it not stopping with first down but if a guy runs out of bounds or tackled OB the clock should stop like the nfl … I’m fine with keeping it to where it doesn’t stop on a first down until the 2 min mark but makes no sense when teams are down by two scores and they have a big play and they run out of bounds and the clock doesn’t stop, that needs to be fixed. As far as nil and the portal it’s so screwed up I don’t even know if it matters talking about bc the ncaa will find a way to screw it up more but for starters I believe
1) should be limits on nil earnings for players across the board and it should be nowhere near 2 million lol
2) players shouldn’t be eligible to receive nil money until after freshman year
3) if you transfer before you graduate from original school you should have to pay back all nil funds earned at that school or the school you transfer to agrees to pay it all back
4) transfer needs to go back to sitting out a year regardless unless you have graduated or your head coach is fired or leaves
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Re: Two changes that should and need to take place in college football:
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Jan 2, 2024, 10:26 AM
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What you're really saying is you're ready for the big split.
Transfer portal can't open after bowl season due to the academic calendar. It'd make more sense to have only 1 TP opening after spring ball if you wanted something similar (at least, within the student-athlete model).
Once we get to the big split, they can set up a pro model similar to the NFL and have a bargaining agreement to tackle issues like opt-outs. However, college would probably be nixed at this point and the school name would be licensed for the pro team.
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Re: Two changes that should and need to take place in college football:
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Jan 2, 2024, 10:30 AM
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These two are spot on but if we are making a list of things that need to change immediately I think there are about 10 more we can discuss
Unfortunately, even to a lot of fans and coaches dismay, nothing is going to be done in the near future bc the governing body of the college football has been completely neutered
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College football needs a hazmat crew to clean it.***
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Jan 2, 2024, 10:38 AM
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Conference Championship games will not happen in a few years ...
Jan 2, 2024, 10:41 AM
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No coach will want to play in conference championship games when they know they are going to the playoffs. Why would an undefeated, or 1 loss team risk playing a CCG when they know they will be in the playoffs?
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Re: Conference Championship games will not happen in a few years ...
Jan 2, 2024, 11:45 AM
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Championship games will be rendered moot for this and other reasons. Conferences will just have a regular season winner, who will be the champion representing the conference. Other reasons are that SEC championship loser is almost certainly going to be part of the at-large group, so why bother even playing the game?
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Re: Conference Championship games will not happen in a few years ...
Jan 2, 2024, 12:40 PM
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First round bye is pretty big.
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Re: Two changes that should and need to take place in college football:
Jan 2, 2024, 11:36 AM
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Won't happen because your idea makes too much sense. lol
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Re: Two changes that should and need to take place in college football:
Jan 2, 2024, 11:41 AM
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Make a rule that makes it so you can’t enter transfer portal if you sit out a bowl game, and start TP after CFP are over….
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Re: Two changes that should and need to take place in college football:
Jan 2, 2024, 11:45 AM
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If you enter the transfer portal you can’t play in the post season the following year would be nice too
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Re: Two changes that should and need to take place in college football:
Jan 2, 2024, 12:32 PM
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The big thing that needs to happen is if you opt out and it’s not cause you’re going to the NFL but cause you’re going in the portal then you need to lose all of your perks connected to your current team.
So as soon as you’re out then you’re out out. No access to the facilities or any of the extras perks of being on the team should be afforded to you.
IF you do that combined with moving the portal til after the bowl games you’d change the dynamic to a degree. You can’t just move the portal though and allow guys to keep all of their perks.
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Re: Two changes that should and need to take place in college football:
Jan 2, 2024, 12:51 PM
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I know you cant go back...but if you could
Eliminate NIL because in the end, only the schools with the wealthiest boosters will rise and stay at the top. (Clemson is not in that kind of company).
NFL to change their "3 years removed from HS" policy. Any year players can declare for the draft, even right out of HS (more on this is a sec)
Pay all players the same. (Even though I don't agree with paying college players because they are already getting a huge opportunity with a scholarship). I don't know what that number is, but it should be the same nationwide or at least conference wide. For example, something that increases for each year at one school to reward loyalty (like $10K for YR1, $20K for YR2, etc). If they think they can make more with NIL, then declare for the draft. I think most players would find they need the college game more than the college game needs them.
Only conference champions make the playoff. Remove all bowl games from the playoff format. The playoff doesn't need major bowl names attached to them to make them attractive. Reserve bowls for those that dont make the payoff, that way they can still play in major bowls, Orange, Rose, etc. right now, only will the schools with the wealthiest boosters will rise, but they also get the playoff AND the major bowls.
Once declared for the draft, announce portal or opt out for any reason, they are immediately off the team. They dont get to sit out and still enjoy the fruit (practice, team travel, bowl activities / prize packages) of being on the team.
Might even need to have players sign contracts. IF they leave within that contract, they must pay back the money they were paid as well as the scholarship value.
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Re: Two changes that should and need to take place in college football:
Jan 2, 2024, 6:42 PM
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I like the increase in pay each year. And since they are getting paid they can pay for their tuition
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Re: Two changes that should and need to take place in college football:
Jan 2, 2024, 3:31 PM
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Can't wait until after bowl season to open the portal. Bowl season doesn't end until next week but classes start for a lot of universities this week. If you delay portal opening until after bowl season you've effectively eliminated mid-year transfers.
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Who does Trevor beat for the Heisman?***
Jan 2, 2024, 6:31 PM
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