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Orange Blooded [4024]
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What values are really important to MAGA?
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Mar 1, 2024, 1:42 PM
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We know it's not "Law and Order" as they support blanket immunity for the POTUS regardless of what crimes he/she commits.
We know it's not securing the border as they have blocked the biggest bipartisan border legislation in a generation.
We know it's not about keeping "babies from being murdered" as they support the continued practice of IVF which has already murdered millions of babies.
We know it's not about fiscal responsibility as their chosen candidate set a record for debt added in a 4 year term.
Do they even know what they stand for, except maybe crying about "diversity" and mixing of the races?
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Making Rachel Maddow cry next qwestion.***
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Mar 1, 2024, 1:49 PM
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Trolling, spreading hate, and boat parades***
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Mar 1, 2024, 1:56 PM
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All-In [27471]
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the gd boat parades....***
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Mar 1, 2024, 1:59 PM
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Nah, those were 'canoes'... The boys said you liked it.***
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Orange Blooded [2032]
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Re: What values are really important to MAGA?
Mar 1, 2024, 1:59 PM
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FREEDOM
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All-TigerNet [11251]
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Theyre heavily into victimization. As in
Mar 1, 2024, 2:05 PM
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“All these people called me racist after I tweeted out that really racist comment. Wahhhh”
“All these mean judges are ruling against me because I broke the law. Wahhhhh”
“They called me a homophobe because I don’t like the gays. Wahhh. And I’ve never, ever, ever looked at or enjoyed trans p r o n. Ever. I promise. Wahhhhh”
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^^^ Classic example of projection ^^^***
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Mar 1, 2024, 3:09 PM
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CU Medallion [58632]
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Honestly, what drives MAGA is the insanity of the far left.
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Mar 1, 2024, 2:13 PM
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Menstruating men and men playing in women's sports, defunding police, reparations, DEI, etc..
It's an irrational, extreme reaction to irrational extremism on the other side. And both sides do it. No mystery here.
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Except anyone who disagrees with them is "the Left".***
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Mar 1, 2024, 2:39 PM
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All-In [34145]
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And a Commie.***
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Mar 1, 2024, 2:45 PM
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Re: Honestly, what drives MAGA is the insanity of the far left.
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Mar 1, 2024, 3:11 PM
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I think we already MAGAed them
It's the top echelon
Bye bye
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Re: Irrational extremists.
Mar 1, 2024, 8:16 PM
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I knew you didn't want to answer that. LOL. You seemed to have cooled off a bit on your b!tching about the southern border since MAGA killed the border bill and prefers "status quo". LOL
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CU Medallion [58632]
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You couldn't be more wrong, you moe-ran.
Mar 1, 2024, 9:45 PM
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But that's not surprising. My stance on the border has not changed and I have addressed it frequently over the past weeks and days. I know that 3rd grade was hard for you, but your reading comprehension needs work, as I did answer your question, head-on, but I'll repeat for you since you are struggling.
You axed, "who wants to get rid of the FBI?" and I responded correctly and truthfully "Irrational extremists".
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Values? What are these "values" of which you speak?
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Mar 1, 2024, 2:58 PM
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Domination Control Retribution Revenge to uphold the mantle of Dear Leader and defend him no matter what
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Oh, and apparently vaccines
Mar 1, 2024, 3:00 PM
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Let's not forget it was Dear Leader who pushed through all these "great, wonderful vaccines" and encouraged everyone to get them. Yes, the same vaccines that his same people call "the jab" and credit for numerous deaths and illnesses (not that I entirely disagree with that aspect).
I remember when Biden tried to take credit and the MAGA folks were hollering "No, it was Trump!!!" Don't hear so much of that anymore, do we??
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Re: Oh, and apparently vaccines
Mar 1, 2024, 3:14 PM
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Find me MAGAs trying to take credit for it.
It was the one thing most were mad at Trump for
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Orange Blooded [2133]
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Which shows how stupid MAGAts are.******
Mar 1, 2024, 3:44 PM
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Re: Which shows how stupid MAGAts are.******
Mar 1, 2024, 4:09 PM
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Stupid because they were weary of a streamlined vaccine? A vaccine they said would slow the spread? Which was completely untrue.
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Orange Blooded [2133]
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The vaccines worked....
Mar 2, 2024, 9:32 AM
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They saved millions of lives, saved millions more from severe covid, and provide protection from long covid, too. I know we're supposed to hate the vaccines because Fauci is an ouchy and evil. But the reality is the vaccines worked.
The MAGAts who booed Trump on the vaccines were booing the one good thing he actually supported. Hence, their stupidity. So, if you cast your lot with the boo-birds, that doesn't say much for you.
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Orange Blooded [2133]
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They exist for one reason and one reason only....
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Mar 1, 2024, 3:14 PM
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To "own" the libs.
MAGA is not defined by what it likes, but by what it hates. And there's no better expression of that hate than what they think of Democrats, Liberals, "The Left".
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This is the best definition. It doesnt stand FOR anything,
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Mar 1, 2024, 3:18 PM
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but it stands AGAINST the left.
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"Circle" fest... ### get ya sum.***
Mar 1, 2024, 3:16 PM
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Re: What values are really important to MAGA?
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Mar 1, 2024, 3:38 PM
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Again with the border bill? It’s been explained to you multiple times on this forum, that bill still allowed for 1.8 million immigrants a year. 5,000 a day. That should be unacceptable for both parties. The day Biden got in office he repealed most of Trumps border policies. Policies that had greatly reduced illegal border crossings. There would’ve have never been a border emergency if Biden hadn’t done that. Now he is trying to push some sorry ### bill and say it’s the republicans fault.
Secondly, Trump has been found guilty of any crime.
I’m guessing by ivf you mean in vitro fertilization. I don’t really understand the comparison to abortion here. Isn’t ivf used to help women get pregnant, who couldn’t otherwise? Don’t really see the harm in that. Abortion is ending a pregnancy and a life. Ivf is creating it.
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Re: What values are really important to MAGA?
Mar 3, 2024, 7:09 AM
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Explain to us how "Status Quo" is better than the bipartisan border bill. Don't worry, we know you won't answer cause you can't make a rational argument here. LOL
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Re: What values are really important to MAGA?
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Mar 1, 2024, 6:09 PM
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Generalized statements that are not backed in reality and facts. Nice. Let me play that game with statements I can back up.
Law & Order - Are you suggesting that the party who supports defund the police, no cash bail systems, catch & release, writing tickets for non-violent misdemeanor crimes, and have political control of the top 10 most dangerous cities in America have any strong points in law & order?
Border Legislation - Are you suggesting the party that voted 100% against the secure the border act (HR2) in 2023 where all funding went to securing the border are more interested in border security? While this $118B bill you are calling bi-partisan has ~$22B for border security, ~$10B for uranium enrichment, and the remaining $86B going to Ukraine, Israel, and IndoPac is a great border legislation idea?
Unborn Children - Are you suggesting the party who is pro-choice is more concerned with saving unborn children than the one who is pro-life? Using In Vitro Fertilization as an argument. That argument is too ignorant for response.
Federal Deficit - This one you have an argument. Trump did increase the deficit in a 4-year term by more than any other President to date. But why? His first 3 years the deficit increased at an amount less than the first 3 years of Obama/Biden and also less than the first 3 years of Biden's current term. The only out-lier is year 4 where he approved overwhelmingly unanimous recommendations from Congress to provide economic aid and relief for the world-wide Covid pandemic. I challenge you to assert that he was wrong in approving those funds for Covid. And since this one is so easy I'll add a link from I'm sure one of your favorite media outlets as proof.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/17/politics/biden-economy-facts-first/index.html
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Re: What values are really important to MAGA?
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Mar 1, 2024, 8:20 PM
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So much strawman there Baw.
MAGA has claimed to be the party of "Law and Order". Fail for you there.
MAGA has pretended to care about the "Invasion at the Border". Another fail for you there Sir.
MAGA has pretended to be outraged over the "murder of babies". FAIL for you again.
Those are 3 of the biggest MAGA campaign issues, and MAGA has proven to be FOS on all of them. Congrats.
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Re: What values are really important to MAGA?
Mar 2, 2024, 4:49 PM
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"Law & Order - Are you suggesting that the party who supports defund the police, no cash bail systems, catch & release, writing tickets for non-violent misdemeanor crimes, and have political control of the top 10 most dangerous cities in America have any strong points in law & order?"
I'm suggesting that red states have higher murder rates than blue states. Also, I'm suggesting that the mob that ransacked the capital and attacked the police were not even the slightest bit interested in law and order. I'm also suggesting that people who claim they are in favor of law and order, but are hostile to even the slightest gun legislation are being disingenuous at best. MAGA!
"Border Legislation - Are you suggesting the party that voted 100% against the secure the border act (HR2) in 2023 where all funding went to securing the border are more interested in border security? While this $118B bill you are calling bi-partisan has ~$22B for border security, ~$10B for uranium enrichment, and the remaining $86B going to Ukraine, Israel, and IndoPac is a great border legislation idea?"
I'm suggesting that MAGA and the GOP are not interested in any border legislation at all, but only interested in keeping the border as a political issue. We know this because Trump effectively shut down negotiations, because he didn't want Biden to get credit for anything, and his idiot boot-lickers in congress went along with him. MAGA!
"Unborn Children - Are you suggesting the party who is pro-choice is more concerned with saving unborn children than the one who is pro-life? Using In Vitro Fertilization as an argument. That argument is too ignorant for response."
I'm suggesting that "Pro-Life" people aren't actually pro-life. These are people who won't lift a finger to help people in poverty in this country after they're born. Another example is the IVF decision in Alabama. Being unwilling to do anything to curb gun violence in this country is another example. And forcing women to carry non-viable fetuses to term is certainly not pro-life, but pure cruelty. Self-proclaimed "pro-life" MAGA people are lying. MAGA!
"Federal Deficit - This one you have an argument. Trump did increase the deficit in a 4-year term by more than any other President to date. But why? His first 3 years the deficit increased at an amount less than the first 3 years of Obama/Biden and also less than the first 3 years of Biden's current term. The only out-lier is year 4 where he approved overwhelmingly unanimous recommendations from Congress to provide economic aid and relief for the world-wide Covid pandemic. I challenge you to assert that he was wrong in approving those funds for Covid. And since this one is so easy I'll add a link from I'm sure one of your favorite media outlets as proof."
You're #### right we have an argument on the deficit. Trump & his GOP boot-lickers ran up trillion dollar deficits before COVID was a thing. Biden has produced an economy that is growing faster, with wage growth increased above inflation, with jobs growing at twice the rate of the Trump years, with fewer people uninsured, with oil/gas production at an all-time high, with manufacturing investment exploding. Meanwhile, Trump was the first president who left office with fewer jobs than he inherited since Herbert Hoover. MAGA!
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Loyalty. Loyalty. Loyalty.***
Mar 1, 2024, 6:17 PM
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Re: What values are really important to MAGA?
Mar 2, 2024, 8:33 AM
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I don’t know what values are important to maga.
But they do like to project their values on to others. i.e. let’s keep the government out of everyone’s business until we see an opportunity to have the government promote our values. Insert any Ron DeSantis policy here.
They, and I do mean they, cuz I am not maga, seem to generate their values based on fear of other people or other things. See zero some game theory. If someone else gains or advances, it must be bad for the magat, so this other person / group / religion / state / country is a horrible opponent and must be stopped. And there is plenty of irony, because the magat is happy to use the state to stop their opponent from gaining.
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What Is a Zero-Sum Game? A zero-sum game describes a relationship, competition, or business deal where one person's gain is the other person's loss. The phrase "zero-sum game" comes from game theory and the notion that if one person wins and the other person loses, this produces a net gain of zero.
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Fortunately, most Americans (including me) do not live in a zero-sum world. Most Americans understand that one can advance / progress / gain while another individual / group / religion / state / country can simultaneously advance / progress / gain.
I’m not living in fear of others taking success from me. I’m enough of a libertarian that I know I can figure it out. I am thrilled to see others use their freedom to advance / progress / gain. No threat to me / my family / my associations.
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Your 3rd paragraph just described the current administration..."plenty of irony"***
Mar 2, 2024, 11:31 AM
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Re: Your 3rd paragraph just described the current administration..."plenty of irony"***
Mar 2, 2024, 1:49 PM
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Trump policies are based on zero sum fear.
Trump’s speeches at his rallys instill zero sum fear in the the magats. The magats are left believing that trump is going to protect them. He will make sure the Dems don’t steal the country or steal what is theirs.
Trump tells the magats “I am your retribution”. He says “they are coming to get me, but I know you won’t let that happen.” He tells em the left is gonna come take your stuff.
This is a pretty easy pitch for a slick talking guy from midtown Manhattan. And the irony is rural America is his prime target.
The Dems on the other hand aren’t worried about who is gonna come get them and take their stuff. The Dems are worried about creating more jobs for the middle class, education and healthcare. Yes, I confess, these are three liberal values.
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loldelusion much?
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Mar 2, 2024, 2:09 PM
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“The Dems are worried about creating more jobs for the middle class, education and healthcare. “
Lololololol. Gd idiots.
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Re: What values are really important to MAGA?
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Mar 2, 2024, 1:28 PM
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How about the name MAGA (Make America Great Again) tells it all as to what is important. We can't survive in this cesspool being created by the Democrats.
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Re: What values are really important to MAGA?
Mar 2, 2024, 2:19 PM
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What are the MAGA values then besides kissing Trumps @$$?
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Re: What values are really important to MAGA?
Mar 2, 2024, 10:07 PM
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You'll figure it out when you leave your parents basement.
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Orange Blooded [4024]
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Re: What values are really important to MAGA?
Mar 3, 2024, 7:07 AM
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You don't know.
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what we know is you are another
Mar 3, 2024, 8:49 AM
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example of a pathetic leftist living in the echo chamber
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