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Is it truly not good if its
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Feb 8, 2024, 3:50 PM
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Something that 90% of the people who voted for and against him already knew?
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It's hard to argue that it's not on par with what the Left has been saying about
Feb 8, 2024, 3:54 PM
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Trump.
You mean you know he's a criminal, and you still will vote for him?
You mean you know he's mentally impaired, and you still will vote for him?
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False premise on both questions. Numerous hours of video regarding Biden.***
Feb 8, 2024, 3:56 PM
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Whats most maddening to me is that his condition
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Would be crystal clear to anyone in his orbit, yet the lust for power and control keeps them using him like Weekend at Bernies, and there’s a special place in Hades for his c### wife, to abuse the man she’s supposed to love like this.
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He was their Puppet from Day1, compromised and mostly oblivious.***
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It's one thing to get him to the end of his term by running out the clock.
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It's quite another to run for re-election, especially keeping Kamala in place.
I'm hoping, without much hope, this is the pressure point Dems need to force Biden to end his campaign, and head into a brokered convention and pick a nominee that isn't Harris. You better believe the RNC is going to drag him with this using whatever money they have left in the coffers, and it will hurt him -- for good reason.
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Re: It's one thing to get him to the end of his term by running out the clock.
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You think all of those people who thought he was totally fine are questioning
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Feb 8, 2024, 4:16 PM
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their perceptions now? lol, no they aren't. deweather
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I saidthe same then that I'll say for this election
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Feb 8, 2024, 4:19 PM
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They aren't voting for him, they are voting against Trump.
At least most, I think. I can't imagine actually voting for him and thinking he's more than what he appears.
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Ohh, there were plenty of people all sorts of excited for his presidency
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Feb 8, 2024, 4:20 PM
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Gonna bring back normalcy! Adults in charge now!
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Maybe it's rigged***
Feb 9, 2024, 5:26 PM
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Nah dawg, I explicitly remember our conversations where I said
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Feb 8, 2024, 4:33 PM
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he very clearly had some form of dementia and you were certain he was just kinda old but otherwise fine.
Also, given the fact that we don't know who is running the show, you don't know if they're trying to destroy democracy or not. This administration has certainly done a lot of fascisty things, particularly during covid.
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DEsTroY duhMYcrOsEE
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W t f does that bull#### even mean?
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Anything progressives don't like=destroying democracy***
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It's the exact same conversation, nothing changed.
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Feb 8, 2024, 4:57 PM
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I think both Biden and Trump are too old to be running, and I said as much back then. Whether or not they both have dementia or are senile, still hasn't been proven, but I'm fine with keeping 70+-year-old candidates from running for President. I said the same then, so this isn't the "gotcha" you and your sidekick think it is.
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I didnt say it was a gotcha. I said he remembered well.
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Feb 8, 2024, 5:00 PM
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Don’t lash out because you can’t recognize clear dementia.
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lol, okay. It supported both our arguments, so I do appreciate your effort.***
Feb 8, 2024, 5:09 PM
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Nah son, not taking the bait about covid.
Feb 8, 2024, 5:13 PM
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And I know you'll hate to hear it, for obvious reasons, but until Biden inspires an insurrection attempt, there's really no comparison between him and Trump in the "destroy democracy" department. But, we'll see how Biden (or whomever is actually running the show) handles things if he loses to Trump.
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Isnt the fact that nobody knows who is actually running the
Feb 8, 2024, 10:34 PM
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White House antithetical to the concept of democracy? How is that not a threat to it?
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If you have to stretch THAT far to try and make your argument...
Feb 8, 2024, 11:29 PM
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it probably would be better to just not say anything. Having to make up a situation to try to compare to a fact that we know to be true and proven just feels forced and desperate.
But even in your concocted situation, whoever is running the White House has not done anything to jeopardize democracy to the level that we KNOW Trump has (and has admitted to doing again) so even here your example is wrong.
But again, there's still time for Biden (or whomever) to show themselves to be the same threat as Trump, but it's laughable to make that argument right now.
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Im not making an argument, Im asking the question of how
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A clearly cognitively impaired president, who is apparently too unwell to stand trial, is not a threat to our democracy (republic, really)? It’s not a stretch in the least to assume he is not making any of the decisions given his current state. So who is? If the population elects one guy, but someone else is actually running things behind the scenes, is that not ignoring the will of the people?
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No more so than Reagan in his 2nd term or Trump in his first....
Feb 9, 2024, 4:24 PM
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President administrations are not just one person making decisions and voters understand that. Most voters don't want dictators. We've had almost 4 years of Biden and Trump administrations to compare and contrast and in both cases, it's obvious both aren't up to the job personally. Neither should be President. But, since they will be our choices in November, I'll go with the mentally unfit President who hasn't already tried to overthrow our democracy over the mentally unfit President who has (and has already admitted to acting as a dictator on day one of his administration). It's really that simple.
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This must be the latest NPR talking points
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Feb 9, 2024, 8:38 PM
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If possible, pretend for just a second Trump doesn’t exist and Jan 6th never happened….then see if you can answer the question. Any sane person should agree that yes, electing a meat puppet with someone unknown pulling his strings is not good for “democracy”(even though we’re a republic).
You should probably also recognize your echo chamber did you a disservice in convincing you Biden was old but otherwise fit and did not have some form of dementia.
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Again, this is super simple and clear...
Feb 9, 2024, 11:03 PM
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Yes, I think electing someone with diminished cognitive ability (or "meat puppet") would not be good for democracy and I hate that this can be applied as a possibility to both Biden and Trump. That's the issue you seem to be having is that you can't fathom that your question applies to BOTH candidates running, not just one. Listen to both men talk and it's impossible not to come to similar conclusions that both men are cognitively unwell. Your echo chamber drowns out any attempt at hearing that truth. I've called both old, and with major issues and I've said I wish both weren't running, but all you hear/read is a defense of Biden. It's telling.
Additionally, for the second condition of your question, there's always the threat of someone else pulling the strings, no matter the elected official's cognitive state. It's a conspiracy theory played against almost every candidate that's ever run that I can remember (e.g. Soros! or Koch Bros/Putin!). This is just obfuscation by the unknown meant to distract. Best to ignore it even if it has some built-in truth (i.e. no one wants some secret person/group running things) or at least wait to see some actual proof before running with it.
So, again, at the end of the day you have two candidates who both have cognitive deficiencies that make me worried, but only one of them has already proven to be a threat to our democratic principles, beliefs, and system and that makes the decision an easy one deciding which I'd rather have as President.
Simple.
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You dont recognize that your inability to discuss Biden without
Feb 10, 2024, 9:17 PM
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Bringing Trump into the conversation illustrates how propagandized you are, do you?
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That argument works both ways, you know.
Feb 10, 2024, 10:19 PM
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Only one of us has seen to it to be able to criticize both candidates for their mental issues while the other one seems determined to ignore reality and only focus on their chosen talking points. Almost like there's some cognitive dissonance occurring that makes you uncomfortable with acknowledging certain truths. I wonder how that happened? I guess it'll have to stay a mystery...
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He was when policies were forced on private business under threat
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Of OSHA violations, as well as pressuring them to censor things the federal govt didn’t like.
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It was a surprise when OSHA stepped in to administer
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safety and health mandates (or regulate infectious diseases) where it impacts occupational risk.
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OSHA doesnt require private businesses to fire employees if they dont
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Get a flu shot.
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You're right. They don't.***
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Hur: "We can't prosecute him. He can't remember anything." (sic)***
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Two-tiered justice system exposed for all to see. Those DOJ boys better hope
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T-Rump doesn't get elected. I could see prosecutorial misconduct as the primary theme of the first year.
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Yeah tyranny!***
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Not tyranny. More like accountability.... and retribution. ;~)***
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Uh huh...***
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Yes. All kinds of crimes get waived because the prosecution
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Thinks the defendant is a sweet old man.
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Yup! Another win for the Biden Crime Family***
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Also, tin foil hat time.
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We knew he wasn’t going to get charged with anything, but this memory info was released with the timing and the purpose of tagging him out for November. This info will continue to snowball until he has to step aside.
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I don't think that's tinfoil hat stuff, I think it's pretty obvious that is
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Feb 8, 2024, 4:13 PM
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what's going on.
It would be cool if we had some actual journalists that might ask the question of who has actually been making decisions in the White House for the past 3 years.
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Re: I don't think that's tinfoil hat stuff, I think it's pretty obvious that is
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Well….it wasn’t Trump, and that’s good enough for me.
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It might be for all you know, nobody has any idea who is running things***
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Take a detailed look at the administration... You'll see the corollary.***
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Re: Ive never heard people say things so dumb
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And I’ve never seen people follow a criminal con artist with such enthusiasm…but here we are.
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Theres a phrase about the evil you know being better
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Than the evil you don’t know.
If after this you think Joe has been making a single meaningful decision for 3 years, you’re deluded. So you ultimately have zero idea who you actually voted for and who has been running the country, and you couldn’t be prouder of it.
You can orange man me all you want, I didn’t vote for either of them.
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Love that first sentence. Describes my position perfectly.***
Feb 8, 2024, 4:34 PM
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Re: Theres a phrase about the evil you know being better
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I don’t highlight my support for a Biden presidency over a trump presidency as a matter or pride…only as proof of how strongly I feel that one is clearly less damaging to the country than the other. I guess you see it the other way…which I guess is fine as long as you can rationalize away your lack of character.
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Re: Theres a phrase about the evil you know being better
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Edited to note that you did not vote for Trump or Biden…which is good. I’m no fan of Biden either, but I will vote for him over Trump…wish I didn’t have to make that decision.
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I had the character enough
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To not vote for either. You’re chest thumping about pulling the lever for a phantom administration. Do you think it’s healthy to have Trump so wrapped around your brain that you can literally say that any other person in this country, completely unknown to you, is a better choice?
The fact that you’re doubling down and “derr hurr still ain’t Trump” instead of thinking this is troubling and wondering who you did vote for is worrisome.
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Re: I had the character enough
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Brother…I’d vote for ‘candidate to be named later’ instead of Trump if I lived in a state where that vote mattered. That may be worrisome to you but that’s the type of threat that I think Trump poses and the lack of trust I have in a MAGA controlled party.
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I think the unknown doesnt worry you enough.***
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Actually - that's not great for us. Because he's about to be our President again***
Feb 8, 2024, 4:08 PM
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Get real.***
Feb 8, 2024, 4:09 PM
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He's the best the Dems have got.***
Feb 8, 2024, 4:13 PM
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He's the best Puppet 'they' got.***
Feb 8, 2024, 4:14 PM
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You grossly underestimate Kamala's potential.***
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I have to admit she was chosen for the exact same reasons... Clueless.***
Feb 8, 2024, 4:19 PM
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Will you ever tell us who is "them"?
Feb 8, 2024, 4:20 PM
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Or will you just argue yourself into a pretzel and just move onto something else..like every other time I ask?
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Why should I waste my time? You already know. Do I need to verify it for you?***
Feb 8, 2024, 4:25 PM
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This should be easy for you. 1 or 2 words. There's no need for an in depth
Feb 8, 2024, 4:29 PM
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innuendo and hominem laden dissertation over it.
Just type a name. Maybe even 2. Who is it?
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Lot o points [155978]
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Bill Bixby.
Feb 8, 2024, 5:31 PM
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There. I said it. Tell the wife and kids I always loved them. Avenge me.
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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Solos..is The Hulk the one you won't say is running the country?
Feb 9, 2024, 5:27 PM
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Green man gotcha scared?
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Hall of Famer [24815]
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I'm not scared of jack... I've been on the 'edge' more than I care to admit, for
Feb 9, 2024, 5:42 PM
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better or worse. I have an old saying. "The cat got cheated. He only got nine." Figure it out.
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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Such abadass***
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Feb 9, 2024, 6:28 PM
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Hall of Famer [24815]
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I tend to consider it more like a "survivor", but you can call it whatever...***
Feb 9, 2024, 9:45 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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Ah..a survivor you say. Like a cockroach.
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Feb 9, 2024, 10:54 PM
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Makes sense now.
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All-TigerNet [12592]
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Gavin Just Got Himself a Big Boner
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Feb 8, 2024, 4:26 PM
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Biden needs to step aside. We’re about to reelect essentially a memory care patient.
Politically this is going to hurt Biden day after day.
He would have been better off to have been charged as he couldn’t be taken to court until out of office dead or alive.
Let’s see the spin docs spin this.
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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A memory care patient is getting elected if Biden and Trump run.
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Feb 8, 2024, 4:30 PM
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Neither one is of sound mind IMO. Haley is right.
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Orange Blooded [4792]
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Re: This is uh...not great for Biden.
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Feb 8, 2024, 4:55 PM
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One thing is for sure and its that whoever is actually running the country has a massive amount of student debt.
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Hall of Famer [24815]
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It's for their runners that are shuffling all those boxes of law and grift from
Feb 8, 2024, 5:44 PM
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'K' & 'J' Street think tanks back and forth to Congress...
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110%er [5694]
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maybe but it's worse
Feb 9, 2024, 4:41 PM
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for all the sheep that voted for him.
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