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Re: When did Halloween move to April?
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Apr 1, 2024, 8:31 AM
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Hope springs eternal, but good horror is so tough to find.
There's plenty of gore flicks, plenty of jump scares, but pure horror is a real rarity. The best ones for me seem to be the unresolved ones. Like the ending of Friday 13th "Maam, we didn't find any little boy." "Well then...he's still out there."
Or The Birds...no explanation, no rationale, no resolution. Just an uneasy calm, until next time. Or the ending of The Thing. Is one of them The Thing, just waiting to be frozen again?
Here's a real gem from 1974 with Margot Kidder before Superman. Just disturbing as he77. A classic "killer in the [sorority] house" movie, but with no reason, no explanation, no back story, and no conclusion. Just mysterious deaths, and cryptic, deranged phone calls that sound like they could be coming from a mental institution. The killer comes, and he goes. And that's all we know.
Since it's 50 years old, I'll pull throw out a spoiler. The last scene is the still-unknown killer, peeping out of an upstairs window, looking down on the police cars arriving, and the police consoling and protecting the girls who 'escaped." Waiting till they leave, or for the next time. Just effing terrifying.
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Apr 1, 2024, 9:07 AM
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great movie and one of my favorites. been watching foreign horror and man some of them are the best i have seen. can’t really think of any murican horrors in a while that i thought were sponge worthy.
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Apr 1, 2024, 9:24 AM
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Same here. Spoorloos was horrific and the Ring was pretty good I thought, but those were 30 years ago now. I thought Scream was a really clever homage to the genre, but gotta go way, way back for good terror anymore.
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Apr 1, 2024, 9:40 AM
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Will do! Thanks for the rec.
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The horror genre seems to be an every month - whole year thing.
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Apr 1, 2024, 9:32 AM
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Mainstream horror films are just not my thing... Stuff like the movie "Aliens" or other films with tangential horror elements is ok - but the movies centered around demonic or murderous supernatural forces - meh....
What I've really never understood is the step beyond horror - the "gore" genre. The gore stuff must have a dedicated audience that makes money for its producers because the sheer number of medium/low budget gore films that are released every year is mind-boggling to me.
Making/consuming films that are nothing but a collection of demented images of the applications of extreme violence and human cruelty to other human beings is not "entertainment" IMO. I find a lot of it to be "sick in the head" kind of stuff that intentionally taps into the more disgusting mental processes of some human beings.
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Yeah there are a lot of films that are 'disturbing', but I don't really consider those to be horror. Some gore is well placed. One that comes to mind is the first transformation of The Thing from a dog to...whatever the he77 it is. That's a pretty scary scene, because it shows just how foreign this monster is. And because you then realize it could be anything or anyone.
But the best horror for me always has a heavy dose of the unknown, or paranoia, or madness. Like the scene in The Shining where you realize that he's been typing the same few lines, over and over and over, for days on end. Still gives me the creeps to this day.
Gore is usually a crutch...easy to do and easy to elicit a response from. But horror is much tougher. I grew up during the slashers of the 80's, and there were a ton of them. Seemed like 3 or 4 more every weekend at the movies. But so few memorable ones.
I do still put the original Friday 13 in my Top 10. Just the dread of an unknown killer, but the best scene by far is the one where the mother shows up to save the survivors, and you slowly realize she's the one as she tells the story of Camp Crystal Lake. That's just great. No supernatural or even aliens required. Just human vengeance.
And I generally find that if just a few seeds are planted, people's own minds will generate far more fear than a gory scene. Folks just have a way of imagining the worst, and that can make for the best spooky stuff there is. Something a simple as a slightly cracked-open door, or a strange sound down a darkened hall, can send the mind racing.
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Gimmie all the gratuitous gore, far out means of killing people,
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Apr 1, 2024, 10:20 AM
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naked co-eds, all of it. For some reason I don't put suspense in the same place a horror but certainly there is a lot of overlap. If they had a remote chance of being highly profitable, I'd move back to Clover and start up a drive-in with a few screens. I'd also put a small building on the property and call it a grindhouse.
Now I wouldn't just let degens be degens in this place, but would try to capture that element of cinema from the 70s.
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