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Now that the first playoff ranking has been released
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Now that the first playoff ranking has been released


Nov 2, 2022, 10:09 AM

are we still claiming to be victims of a widespread anti-Clemson bias?

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Yes, Even More So. The Committee Has This Team Where


Nov 2, 2022, 10:11 AM

The data would tell you they should be. The Disney/Media fools will rage even harder now.

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If you actually watched the Show last night,


Nov 2, 2022, 10:12 AM

You would have seen it on FULL display with ESPN's reactions to it, and KLATT"s 2 hour MELTDOWN on Twitter


But you were in hiding,thinking up a chytstirtring post.Like those media talking heads, YOU don't matter

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Ahh I see, so it's not the playoff committee


Nov 2, 2022, 10:36 AM

who has orchestrated a plot to hurt Clemson. Just the media.

Got it.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Media conglomerates control dispersal, narrative, and like a skilled craftsmen...


Nov 2, 2022, 10:51 AM

have mastered the art of sculpting editorials & presenting the finished product as news. How that relates to sports, well to the gullible "bury your head isn the sand" types it doesn't relate to sports. But the fact remains that 85-88% of the national sports media is left leaning politically. Btw, everything is political-

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So how exactly do talking heads on ESPN hurt Clemson


Nov 2, 2022, 12:10 PM

if they don't impact decisions made by those who matter (e.g., CFP committee)?

The uproar here about meanies saying bad stuff about Clemson seems to be more about wounded pride than anything of actual consequence.

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Re: So how exactly do talking heads on ESPN hurt Clemson


Nov 2, 2022, 2:24 PM

I enjoy the media hating on Clemson. You’ll hear no complaints from me.

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Now you're starting to get it.


Nov 2, 2022, 11:11 AM [ in reply to Ahh I see, so it's not the playoff committee ]

Maybe you should try to pay better attention?

No one HAS EVER VOICED A CONCERN ABOUT THE COMMITEE.

Yet another swing and miss.

Troll on.

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I wasn't hiding. I am aware of their reactions.


Nov 2, 2022, 10:41 AM [ in reply to If you actually watched the Show last night, ]

I just don't care.

And their reactions aren't indicative of an anti-Clemson bias. They had reasons for why they didn't think we should be lower than 4th.

Are you always this sensitive about things, or just when it relates to Clemson football?

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Saaawing anna miss.


Nov 2, 2022, 11:14 AM

Do you have nothing better to do than troll football? Please find another hobby.

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Re: Saaawing anna miss.


Nov 2, 2022, 8:07 PM

The judge is correct. Try living in reality for awhile. Did you think our tigers were going to be picked in the top 4. I’m glad but did not see this for what this team has done this year.

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Mrs. Brownell is never right about anything having to do with football.


Nov 3, 2022, 1:21 PM

And frankly, she hardly tries. Her sole mission is to troll the football program.

But hey, again coot, if you'd like to try and debate the "facts" just let me. Are you going to at least try, coot?

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Furthermore,


Nov 2, 2022, 11:16 AM [ in reply to I wasn't hiding. I am aware of their reactions. ]

"Are you always this sensitive about things, or just when it relates to Clemson football?"

Please find a mirror and ask yourself that very question, except insert 'basketball' where you have football.

How many times must your hypocrisy be pointed out?

Troll.

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Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released


Nov 2, 2022, 10:15 AM

By the media absolutely they are acting like a nuke was just dropped

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Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released


Nov 2, 2022, 10:42 AM

Really? Because I watched the show and they didn't say much about Clemson.

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Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released


Nov 2, 2022, 10:45 AM

All you have to do is get on Twitter never said anything about a show.

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Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released


Nov 2, 2022, 10:57 AM

Right, and most of the people who post on Twitter are not members of the media.

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Yeah, there are no media members on Twitter. Got it.


Nov 2, 2022, 11:23 AM

Lol.

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Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released


Nov 2, 2022, 12:09 PM [ in reply to Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released ]

The people we are talking about are literally analyst holy #### are you really this dumb or just like to argue

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"Oh noes, an analyst said mean things about Clemson!"


Nov 2, 2022, 12:13 PM



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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


You're basing your butthurt over what people say on Twitter?


Nov 2, 2022, 12:12 PM [ in reply to Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released ]

TWITTER?

Anyone can have a Twitter account. Opinions are shared there all the time.

Again, why do you care about this stuff?

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LMAO! You get butthurt over what people say on TIGERNET!


Nov 2, 2022, 8:01 PM

You just can't help yourself, hypocrite troll.

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Re: LMAO! You get butthurt over what people say on TIGERNET!


Nov 2, 2022, 8:11 PM

Take your rose colored glasses off and get real man. You know you were shocked when we hit into the top 4. So was most everyone else.

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Are you responding to the right post, coot?***


Nov 2, 2022, 8:33 PM



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Not what I saw.


Nov 2, 2022, 11:17 AM [ in reply to Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released ]

They had a whole segment talking about Clemson compared to TCU, and they were pushing TCU. Didn't see a segment comparing TCU to Bama.

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Yes! The fact that we don’t get invites to March Madness every year proves it!!!


Nov 2, 2022, 10:17 AM

What do these committees have against Brownlee?!? We were over .500 last year. PUT US IN!!!

~JKB

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^ Ha JKB, that was mean...


Nov 2, 2022, 10:19 AM

to Judge Keller and hurtful too..

but TRUE!!

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She likely has him on Ignore. She has a huge ignore list, and I'm


Nov 2, 2022, 11:21 AM

a proud member. Ms. Judge doesn't like having to deal with facts. She's a walking, talking narrative for promoting bad basketball, but she will not acknowledge her double standards. She's only interested in trolling. I sometimes wonder of she's not on the TNET payroll for generating hits and driving ads?

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Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released

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Nov 2, 2022, 10:18 AM

No but you’re still a trolling POS.

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Dude, the anti-Clemson bais is just


Nov 2, 2022, 10:22 AM

Getting started. Those clowns will foam at the mouth the next few weeks if we keep winning.

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Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released


Nov 2, 2022, 10:22 AM


are we still claiming to be victims of a widespread anti-Clemson bias?


Listen to this TO interview of Clemson Basketball, Judge. It's really good.
Link:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eybsRqfOc3w

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Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released


Nov 2, 2022, 10:32 AM

ESPN and other media outlets - YES

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No one scoffed, gasped or was shaken when other teams


Nov 2, 2022, 10:33 AM

were announced. Why were ESPiN announced upset when Clemson was announced at #4?

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There's something in these hills.


Probably because we have struggled to win several games


Nov 2, 2022, 10:40 AM

that shouldn't have been close, we've been inconsistent, and we don't have any dominant/marquee wins.

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I fully believe that is because we haven't had our full roster


Nov 2, 2022, 1:17 PM

and a little bit of vanilla play calling.

Let's see how things go on Saturday night.

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There's something in these hills.


We've already played two-thirds of the season.


Nov 3, 2022, 10:18 AM

At some point, we have to realize that this is who we are.

This isn't to say that we can't improve, or make some positive changes to scheme, but 8 games is a nice set of data to show what our team is made of this year.

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Who are the "marquee wins" of someone who should be above us?


Nov 2, 2022, 8:08 PM [ in reply to Probably because we have struggled to win several games ]

Troll

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Re: No one scoffed, gasped or was shaken when other teams


Nov 2, 2022, 10:45 AM [ in reply to No one scoffed, gasped or was shaken when other teams ]

No one scoffed or gasped when Clemson was announced #4. I watched the show.

However, there was a big gasp when Georgia was announced #3.

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You watched a different show, then.


Nov 2, 2022, 1:19 PM

And apparently missed the rants on Twitter from ESPiN folks.

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There's something in these hills.


Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released


Nov 2, 2022, 10:47 AM

So negative... wow

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Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released


Nov 2, 2022, 11:02 AM

Not by the committee. But the bias is real from the media. Maybe hate is a better word. The committee is all that matters, thankfully.

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How is the media, as a whole, biased against us?


Nov 2, 2022, 12:16 PM

Who started this supposed anti-Clemson bias?

Why do they hate Clemson?

Who orchestrates the talking points these media members share?

What is the media's objective in hating Clemson so much?

These are legitimate questions, which require specific answers.

I'll wait.

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Anyone? Bueller?***


Nov 3, 2022, 10:19 AM



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Re: How is the media, as a whole, biased against us?


Nov 3, 2022, 1:31 PM [ in reply to How is the media, as a whole, biased against us? ]

- They don't "hate"
- Nobody orchestrates it.
- The media doesn't hate Clemson. We're the biggest challenge to the SEC narrative and meatheads like to pretend anyone could go undefeated in the ACC.

Any other questions, troll?

Good, now I have one for you: why after 12 years has your husband only won TWO tournament games, garnering the 38th highest salary in America, and finishing in the top 40 only TWICE in twelve years?

I'll wait, troll.

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Hello, troll


Nov 2, 2022, 11:09 AM

I don't believe anyone has ever mentioned a "widespread anti-Clemson bias", but if you're suggesting that we have not generally faced more scrutiny and have had to work harder to prove ourselves, then you'd be wrong.

I know you're just trolling as usual, but are your premises ever right? I'm thinking no.

Brad is on the clock. Upon our first loss, we are all sooo excited to hear your oft-repeated, tired excuses that have be rebutted time and time again.

No excuses, Mrs. B, if we don't make the tournament, then you and Mr. B will be searching for employment at a mid-major, at best. Good luck!

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Good lord you're triggered***


Nov 2, 2022, 11:20 AM



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Re: Good lord you're triggered***

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Nov 2, 2022, 11:23 AM

Evidently you don’t follow the daily trolling of JK during football season. He’s clearly just a fan of basketball and a fake football fan.

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Lol. "If the shoe fits..."***


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Re: Hello, troll


Nov 2, 2022, 11:30 AM [ in reply to Hello, troll ]


I don't believe anyone has ever mentioned a "widespread anti-Clemson bias", but if you're suggesting that we have not generally faced more scrutiny and have had to work harder to prove ourselves, then you'd be wrong.

I know you're just trolling as usual, but are your premises ever right? I'm thinking no.

Brad is on the clock. Upon our first loss, we are all sooo excited to hear your oft-repeated, tired excuses that have be rebutted time and time again.

No excuses, Mrs. B, if we don't make the tournament, then you and Mr. B will be searching for employment at a mid-major, at best. Good luck!


Yes this is true. TO said it himself. Listen to the interview:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eybsRqfOc3w

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Re: Hello, troll


Nov 2, 2022, 8:16 PM [ in reply to Hello, troll ]

You are sick of you pull against our BB team because you don’t like what the judge has to say.?

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Please try again in English, coot.


Nov 3, 2022, 9:01 AM

Everyone wants basketball to succeed, but we don't support poor basketball being allowed for 12 years.

8-0, coming soon, coot. I'm sure you'll be here after that, right?

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Maybe not so much anti-Clemson as anti-anybodynotinSEC/BIG..


Nov 2, 2022, 11:59 AM

because that's where their money is invested now. Watch this video of the show. "Clemson's resume, in terms of who've they've beaten, is not great". In other words - the familiar lament... we ain't played nobody. Then: "Bama is number 6, which means Clemson will be number 5". And they go on to explain away why Bama is #6... (they were fully expecting us to be #6). Then the 5 seed is displayed and it's Michigan. The reaction: "WHOA!" (They all sound shocked). "Now, everybody expected to see Clemson here". And again, a long explanation of why Michigan is only #5. Then - "I wonder why Clemson is #4." "So, interesting..."

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34926878/tennessee-ohio-state-georgia-clemson-top-first-cfp-rankings


It was hilarious to hear them berate our schedule, etc... and then the Playoff Committee says just the opposite... that our wins over ranked teams and winning teams (better then .500 record) is what put us over Michigan.

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-football/story/college-football-playoff-chair-says-clemson-ahead-of-michigan-because-of-schedule-20825


I mean, you do have eyes and ears and a functioning brain stem, right? You can see how the ESPN talking heads are not happy at all with the playoff committee putting us in the final four, correct?

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smoking cigarettes and writing something nasty on the wall


I can't stand the SEC


Nov 2, 2022, 12:54 PM

but they have been the strongest football conference during the playoff era. Like it or not, the SEC has the most playoff appearances, the most playoff wins, and the most national championships since the playoffs started in the 2014 season.

I think we can all agree that Tennessee and Georgia should be ranked ahead of us, based on their body of work this year compared to ours. I think we can also agree that we should be ranked ahead of Alabama.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

I haven't heard many analysts argue for Alabama to be ranked ahead of us right now, so SEC bias didn't creep into the playoff rankings overall.

The Big 10 currently has two teams - Ohio State and Michigan - in the top 5. Are you calling this Big 10 bias?

The debate seems to be whether we should be #4 or Michigan should be #4. Again, a reasonable discussion at this point in my opinion. Not bias.

So right now, the SEC has 3 teams in the top 6, and the Big 10 has 2. The ACC has 1. These are the facts. This doesn't make Clemson inferior. It also doesn't mean that there is bias. But the perception is that the SEC and Big 10 are stronger football conferences than the ACC, at least when it comes to having multiple elite, top 10 type teams. This can't really be argued at this point.

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She didn't even watch it. She's just trolling with zero basis.


Nov 2, 2022, 8:16 PM [ in reply to Maybe not so much anti-Clemson as anti-anybodynotinSEC/BIG.. ]

She couldn't care less about football, other than she actually wants them to fail in order to ease the pressure on her husband's 12 year debacle.

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Re: She didn't even watch it. She's just trolling with zero basis.


Nov 2, 2022, 8:21 PM

What a warped guy you are. When you have no explanation you just blast someone else.

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That's incorrect, coot. I explained it quite well.


Nov 3, 2022, 9:05 AM

If you feel you have something of substance to argue then be my guest, but your juvenile attempt to pass as a disgruntled Tiger fan is failing hard.

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It's so tired


Nov 2, 2022, 12:04 PM

the regional or even national anti-Clemson bias play.

That first poll has a lot to do with swagger and Clemson, while 8-0, isn't "8-0 with a bullet."

Let's be honest, they got blue-blooded into that four spot yesterday. And that's great - they've earned it based on past performance.

Wish more folks would just own and embrace and give up on the "little 'ol ROY bus Clemson" bit. Blue-blood status is a pretty good place to be as a program.

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Re: It's so tired


Nov 2, 2022, 12:07 PM


the regional or even national anti-Clemson bias play.

That first poll has a lot to do with swagger and Clemson, while 8-0, isn't "8-0 with a bullet."

Let's be honest, they got blue-blooded into that four spot yesterday. And that's great - they've earned it based on past performance.

Wish more folks would just own and embrace and give up on the "little 'ol ROY bus Clemson" bit. Blue-blood status is a pretty good place to be as a program.


The best comment yet! Maybe we are now being treated as a Blue Blood and are being given then benefit of the doubt.

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Men at 25 play football. Men at 40 play tennis. Men at 60 play golf. Have you noticed as men get older their balls get smaller.


We get the benefit of the doubt way more than we are


Nov 3, 2022, 10:22 AM

victims of bias.

The fact that we were ranked #4 to start the season shows just how much credit we now get as a program. To be ranked #4, after failing to win our division last year, much less our conference, is a huge vote of confidence we probably didn't deserve - but we got it. And this was from media members who supposedly hate Clemson. LOL.

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As someone who believes that the media is totally corrupt...


Nov 2, 2022, 12:09 PM

I don't think Clemson is the target of that corruption.

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yes - from the same people like Klatt & espin


Nov 2, 2022, 12:13 PM

of course


can't you hear their SCREAMS ....

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Most perceived anti-Clemson bias is from media types,


Nov 2, 2022, 12:14 PM

claiming to be objective analysts.

And there's nothing worse than one of those types being told they are wrong. "He1l hath no fury..." is a phrase quite apt, I'd say. lol

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Nice work, Tater Hater.


Nov 2, 2022, 1:09 PM

Was wondering what you could spin up to poke the Clemson faithful with.

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Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released


Nov 2, 2022, 9:00 PM

It’s evident that the AP poll and coaches polls are meaningless

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Re: Now that the first playoff ranking has been released


Nov 2, 2022, 9:16 PM

This is a weird take since you have insisted that we are no longer elite and won’t be again since Dabo only hires friends.

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Lol. Pegged her again.***


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