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PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 15, 2022, 11:07 AM
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Pro Football Focus released its transfer portal rankings for the field right now and former Clemson QB DJ Uiagalelei is at No. 2 on the list behind former Wolfpack QB Devin Leary:
Despite being benched multiple times this year, DJ Uiagalelei showed improvement from last season. The former five-star recruit posted a 79.6 grade in 2022 after a 66.3 mark last year.
The junior has the arm to make any throw asked of him; the issue has been inaccuracy, which stems from his footwork. Since 2021, his 23.8% uncatchable pass rate ranks 107th out of 134 FBS quarterbacks. If Uiagalelei can keep improving in that regard, he has a limitless ceiling.
As for his next stop, keep an eye on Oregon. The Ducks could lose starter Bo Nix, and Matayo Uiagalelei, a five-star edge defender and DJ’s younger brother, listed Oregon in his top three. The other two schools in his top three, USC and Ohio State, likely won’t be in the market for a quarterback this offseason. A return home to the West seems to be in the cards for DJ, who hails from California.
https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-top-25-players-transfer-portal-2022
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It'll be interesting to see if a different QB coach will
Dec 15, 2022, 11:12 AM
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help DJ's accuracy issues.
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I would think all of his issues will improve with time,
Dec 15, 2022, 11:25 AM
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hard work and maturity, regardless of the QB coach.
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Sounds like you are already working on your defense of our coaching staff.***
Dec 15, 2022, 4:42 PM
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You mean like facilities, fans, and the band, troll?
Dec 15, 2022, 7:14 PM
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There's no possible way anyone can be as ignorantly hypocritical as you. No way.
Troll.
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Yeah, I believe he could be salvaged into a decent college qb
Dec 15, 2022, 11:38 AM
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He has horrendous footwork that is a large reason for his accuracy issues
The other issue that will prevent him from being a pro qb is his ability to read a defense and make the right progressions.
That can be coached, but you have to have a threshold ability to process information quickly
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Re: Yeah, I believe he could be salvaged into a decent college qb
Dec 15, 2022, 12:01 PM
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I agree his footwork doesn't look the way "good" footwork does. But after watching the NFL superstars a little closer, they throw it around from all different foot positions and arm angles to get the ball there on time. Maybe it's a "learn the proper way first" idea that DJ hasn't completed yet?
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I think it's more likely a skill level that most
Dec 15, 2022, 3:36 PM
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college QBs will never reach. The best NFL QBs can indeed throw accurately from all sorts of arm slots, both on platform and off, inside and outside the pocket, and rolling either direction.
Many college QBs can't throw accurately from inside a clean pocket and their ceiling is probably not much more than that.
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Re: Yeah, I believe he could be salvaged into a decent college qb
Dec 15, 2022, 12:08 PM
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I think the biggest issue is in his head. I think we can all agree he has elite physical tools and we’ve all seen him throw some beautiful balls. I think confidence plays a large part in that. I’m not sure if he’s out there overthinking things at times, having trouble reading defenses, or perhaps a combination of things. I got the sense often that he was too worried about making a mistake or having to deliver the perfect pass that it resulted in mistakes.
To further the confidence issues it seemed he had a lot of trouble shaking off mistakes. It seemed that if he threw an interception that he’d be even further off on series after that.
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Re: Yeah, I believe he could be salvaged into a decent college qb
Dec 15, 2022, 12:11 PM
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I do wonder if he’d do better in a pro style offense. The coaches pretty much took the RPO and QB run out of the playbook during his 2 freshman starts and he looked every bit like the 5 star recruit he had been in those games.
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There's no way to coach accuracy.
Dec 15, 2022, 3:33 PM
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That's number 1. He can be shown how to buy time in the pocket, look through his progressions, see the field, and throw on time. He has been shown that, numerous times, and unfortunately it doesn't appear capable. Nonetheless, you can't teach accuracy. To be in a "pro" system you have to be able to do all of the above, and along with throwing on time you have to throw on target.
I dunno...
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Re: Yeah, I believe he could be salvaged into a decent college qb
Dec 15, 2022, 12:11 PM
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I do wonder if he’d do better in a pro style offense. The coaches pretty much took the RPO and QB run out of the playbook during his 2 freshman starts and he looked every bit like the 5 star recruit he had been in those games.
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I honestly cannot ever recall one of our players responding
Dec 15, 2022, 1:19 PM
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so poorly to positive press and accolades than DJ did over his career here.
Heading into 2021 he was a clear Heisman frontrunner, and based on his last start @ ND and breaking South Bend records for TD throws, most of Tiger Nation was in full belief that we were simply reloading, again, on offense, for another run at the CFP. That went south quick, and never recovered.
Heading into 2022, with some significant off-season work and conditioning, while DJ didn't blow the doors off to start, game by game he put together solid performances and began climbing that ladder. Based on 2021, fan expectations were tepid to boot heading in. After going 7-0 @ FSU, DJ's numbers nearly mirrored DW and TL season-to-date exploits. His TD/INT ratio was 17:2. He was named a Manning Award watch lister. Then boom. In the tank vs Syracuse, but a win nonetheless.
So DJ is 8-0, the CFP ranks us #4, and the expectations are once again through the roof as we R&R for an Open date ahead of our visit to ND. While statistically not his worst game, or even that crappy at all, as QB he was largely ineffective. Big Loss, and out of the CFP running again. Then lo and behold, on the outside looking in he posts two great outings at home vs Louisville and Miami, and all of a sudden heading into Game 12 we're back on the cusp. It might be. It could be. It ain't. Another dud.
Cause or correlation? Impossible to say, but the timing sure has been uncanny on how his performance has been an inverse of hype and expectations. If he can solve this, or overcome it, his future should remain very bright.
Go Tigers.
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Excellent synopsis...
Dec 15, 2022, 3:16 PM
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...of the roller-coaster year.
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He's been coached on the nuances of playing the position.
Dec 15, 2022, 3:29 PM
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Over and over and over...
It's not something he hasn't been taught. A new coach can do anymore to teach hi. "how" to play QB.
I hope like heck DJ can rebound, but I'm concerned his physical limitations are not things you can teach. Maybe a new setting will help, but at this point DJ is who he is.
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Re: Yeah, I believe he could be salvaged into a decent college qb
Dec 15, 2022, 9:36 PM
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If he gets in the right system, with some really good receivers, he can be a great quarterback. But expecting him to run RPOs and create on the fly does not work for him. I honestly feel like we should’ve never recruited him
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Re: Yeah, I believe he could be salvaged into a decent college qb
Dec 15, 2022, 9:39 PM
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And I put RPO instead of read option
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Re: It'll be interesting to see if a different QB coach will
Dec 15, 2022, 11:57 AM
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help DJ's accuracy issues.
Not sure why so many of our fans want to find ways to trash our OC. DJ made improvements from last year to this year under CBS. Would have likely continued to make improvements but we had a better option at QB. With so many variables there is no way to use his improvement or regression going forward on CBS other than agenda driven points.
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google Dilfer and Clemson QBs
Dec 15, 2022, 2:17 PM
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DJ made progress early but clearly regressed the second half of the season.
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That's one of the most ignorant takes of all time.
Dec 15, 2022, 3:57 PM
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Yeah, Deshaun (1st rounder should have won Heisman) and Trevor (1st pick in the NFL) really were ruined under Street. Likewise, DJ improved by leaps and bounds this year, prior to going back into his mental funk against Syracuse. Still win the next two, thanks to adjusted playcalling.
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You’re smarter than Dilfer, isn’t that how it’s done?
Dec 15, 2022, 11:24 PM
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TL clearly regressed in his time at Clemson. Peterson had to rebuild him
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He didn't regress, let alone "clearly"
Dec 17, 2022, 9:06 AM
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Dilfer basically said Streeter wrecked all 3 of them, and that's idiotic.
Nothing about TLs game has changed under Pederson. It's a much better offense and TL is maturing into the league, but at no point was the #1 NFL pick ruined under his college coach.
His last season was the most productive passing season in Clemson history.
Get outta here with that Dilfer BS.
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Ok, two different topics, but…
Dec 15, 2022, 2:39 PM
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Here is my take on Streeter and the offensive philosophy:
DJ just isn’t an RPO qb and that is abundantly clear. He’s not fast enough to get to the edge and defenses do not have to worry about keeping run containment on him. And no amount of coaching is ever going to change that.
So, the last 2 years the offensive staff has been trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Half the playbook is inaccessible because of this.
There aren’t many individual positions that can dictate a scheme, but QB is definitely one that can.
A more experienced offensive staff would have changed the scheme. However, that’s hard because most players were recruited to fit and compliment the RPO. Also we don’t quite have the offense like to run a pure pro-style offense which is what DJ would have to run in order to be successful.
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Re: Ok, two different topics, but…
Dec 15, 2022, 2:41 PM
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Good point - if the OC doesn't plan to change his scheme based on personnel, then get personnel that can run your scheme.
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So you actually say you watched games, and you didn't see the
Dec 15, 2022, 4:00 PM
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adjustments to help DJ?
Let me put it this way - did you notice the playbook got deeper when Cade came in? Same playbook, new pages.. ones that DJ couldn't execute.
To say our staff didn't custom create an offense for DJ is to say you really didn't understand what you were watching. Surely you saw the adjustments, no???
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Re: Ok, two different topics, but…
Dec 15, 2022, 2:48 PM
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RPO does not mean QB run. All of the pro teams run RPO, even with non-athletic QBs. You may be confusing RPO with read option.
You do not have to be a fast or mobile QB to execute RPO. But you do have to make quick decisions.
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Re: Ok, two different topics, but…
Dec 15, 2022, 2:48 PM
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RPO does not mean QB run. All of the pro teams run RPO, even with non-athletic QBs. You may be confusing RPO with read option.
You do not have to be a fast or mobile QB to execute RPO. But you do have to make quick decisions.
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You are correct, we actually run an RPO read option offense
Dec 15, 2022, 3:01 PM
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The first read is the linebacker which determines a run or pass.
The second read is the defensive lineman or end that determines the hand off or qb keep.
Most pro offenses are pure RPO’s based on the read of the LB’s and they really don’t want the QB to keep it regardless of what the linemen or end is doing. Also pro teams do less zone blocking.
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Seriously man, where do you guys get this stuff?
Dec 15, 2022, 3:54 PM
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We do not ever read LBs to determine if we're going to run or throw. Never.
Very, very rarely DJ is given an option to hand off or keep it, reading the DE ("run/run option"), but more often than not he's told what to do with the ball, whether to keep or hand off. Regardless of that, we NEVER read LBs post snap to determine a run or pass play.
"RPO" is one of the most incorrectly used terms in the game.
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about
Dec 15, 2022, 11:03 PM
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It’s not magic and it’s not an overused term.
Our entire freaking offense is based off the RPO with an initial read on the linebacker. Yeah there are called runs and passes but the core scheme is RPO all day.
And if you don’t think DJ had the option to run it or pass it at all (never as you said), then you need to listen to a couple of post game interviews with streeter and dabo.
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Not at all. Not even a little bit.
Dec 17, 2022, 8:59 AM
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At no point has DJ read an LB to determine whether to hand off or pass. That's RPO.
He has occasionally had option runs, where he's reading the DE to see if he crashes or not, but that's an option to hand off or keep it. That's NOT RPO.
That's not to say DJ has never had a pre-snap read to determine a run or pass, but at no point has he been reading an LB post snap before handing off or pulling the ball to throw.
Sorry bud. Sorry to kill the whole "square peg, round hole" cliche narrative.
Take care.
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You have no clue dude***
Dec 17, 2022, 9:11 AM
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Buddy, you're not correct.
Dec 17, 2022, 9:35 AM
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Are you REALLY trying to convince people that DJ has been making THREE READS in a base offense?? That's ABSURD.
You're trying to tell people, DJ is firstly reading the LB to determine if he's going to pass, THEN he's ALSO reading the DE as his 2nd and 3rd options??
Come on man. You have not been watching that offense.
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Read it and weep buddy…
Dec 17, 2022, 9:26 AM
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Guess who’s quote this is…
— On what he could do better as a play-caller:
"There are a lot of things. On the second-and-long probably could have gone with a different call. It was an RPO but probably could have put D.J. in a better position. Possibly can take some of that off his plate and control it a little bit for him as a play-caller there.
"I'll be questioned if I take all the RPO offs and hand the ball off into an eight-man box, and everyone is going to say, 'You don't know what you're doing as a coach.' So then you have to have your RPO. Then when he throws an RPO out there and it gets four yards, well you need to hand the ball off and run the ball. You can't have your cake and eat it too. My point is, maybe in certain situations, take a peek at it and take the RPO off and force the run. I thought he made some good decisions, but there were about three plays where he didn't necessarily make the bad decision, but if you hand it off, then the run will probably be an explosive run. So you are playing that cat-and-mouse too. If you don't have the RPO on there and hand it off into a loaded box, then it's throw the ball on the perimeter. And you don't want to slow him down by having him think too much. He has to go out there and play ball."
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Re: Can you name even ONE NFL team that runs RPO?
Dec 15, 2022, 8:14 PM
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Miami
Kansas City
Buffalo
All 3 are Super Bowl contenders.
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Re: Can you name even ONE NFL team that runs RPO?
Dec 15, 2022, 11:22 PM
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Houston & Jacksonville both use it on a limited basis, Seattle does to but only on weak run defenses while spreading them out.
Every NFL team has a play or two they go to on 1st down that could be considered RPO especially during the hurry-up before halftime.
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You must have been watching a different offense.
Dec 15, 2022, 3:36 PM
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We didn't use run/pass options. Ever.
We adjusted the offense specifically to suit DJs capabilities, by necessity. Short patterns and QB runs were all he could really "master" but regardless, we didn't use run/pass options. Not sure where you're even getting that.
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Please share Richardson's quotes.
Dec 17, 2022, 9:19 AM
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You're reading what the writer wrote, not what Richardson actually said.
Sorry my man. We don't "run an RPO offense" as you have said. I think you were confused with reading DEs on a run/run option.
And yes, Elliott used a ton of RPO with Trevor, but we stopped that when DJ took over. Streeter does NOT use an RPO offense with DJ. Maybe you're confused with a fake handoff on a called throw? Like the one to the TE down the seam? Yeah, that one. It's not an RPO. No option about it. The pass is the call.
Sorry bud. Take care.
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And here's PROOF you were talking about a run/run option
Dec 17, 2022, 9:28 AM
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"DJ just isn’t an RPO qb and that is abundantly clear. He’s not fast enough to get to the edge and defenses do not have to worry about keeping run containment on him. And no amount of coaching is ever going to change that.
So, the last 2 years the offensive staff has been trying to fit a square peg in a round hole."
So yeah again, what you're calling RPO is not RPO at all. And this is my point exactly... a lot of folks seem to get a little confused about what RPO is, and it's constantly overused even by announcers and writers.
Take care bud. Go Tigers!
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So you know more than Brandon Streeter, Kyle Richardson, and Tony Elliot
Dec 17, 2022, 10:11 PM
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Why don’t you go teach all of them what an RPO is!
Maybe dabo will hire you once you enlighten them and they learn they haven’t been running RPO plays!
Remember us little folks that happens
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Re: It'll be interesting to see if a different QB coach will
Dec 15, 2022, 2:47 PM
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Not as much about the coach as it is about the system. Get him into a West Coast offense that plays to his strengths and he should be more comfortable and may free him up so his natural ability and talents can come out.
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagaleleip
Dec 15, 2022, 11:40 AM
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“Benched” “multiple “ times. Kee- Wrap. Hoo rights this
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 15, 2022, 12:01 PM
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If he stops doing all the horrible stuff he's always done he might be a great QB. Unfortunately you can say that about 75% of college QBs.
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 15, 2022, 12:47 PM
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More posts about a guy we all seemed to be begging to leave but can't stop talking about!
Let's keep the streak alive!
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 15, 2022, 12:50 PM
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Nope,
I am sorry, but DJs biggest problems cannot be fixed now. I cannot believe that any top 25 program coach could look at his film and not see his inability to read defenses and find secondary receivers.
I love DJ but the college game is just too fast and complex for him.
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 15, 2022, 2:41 PM
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It would honestly be ok, and I think I can speak for everyone, if that name was never mentioned again on Tigernet. I don't care if he wins the Heisman next year; that chapter is closed and lets move on.
*if he did win the Heisman next year, that would create some uncomfortable chairs in our press box, wouldn't it?
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 15, 2022, 2:42 PM
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The problem with dj was partly due to offensive scheme. Running this young man in the rpo was like putting a square peg in a round hole. Got a feeling we could see dj could ball in a system that fits his skill set.
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I guarantee you he won't be the 2nd best performer...
Dec 15, 2022, 4:10 PM
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of everyone that transfers. He is way overrated by Pro Football Focus. I think CFB coaches have a much better grip of his limitations than some guy at PFF.
Where DJ ends up will show his true "market value". I wish him the best wherever he goes but his numerous weaknesses will definitely show up again.
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Re: I guarantee you he won't be the 2nd best performer...
Dec 15, 2022, 6:49 PM
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I absolutely agree with you Mo, but here is the thing that I cannot comprehend. How did he look so good at Boston College and ND. At that point I thought, we've got ourselves a damm QB for 2021 !!
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I've answered this question before
Dec 15, 2022, 11:59 PM
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In those two games as a freshman, DJ had ETN in the backfield. Teams couldn't play two-deep safeties because if ETN found a crease he could take it to the house on any play.
His final year especially, ETN was far and away the #1 concern of every opposing defense, every play. Safeties main concern was run support, which left the field very open for DJ and the receivers.
Last year without ETN, safeties stayed back and the long ball disappeared. This put a premium on accuracy in short, mid-range passes, which is a big weakness for DJ.
There more to it, but this is the 500lb gorilla in the room nobody seems to think of.
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"The junior has the arm to make any throw asked of him..."
Dec 15, 2022, 4:38 PM
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Except that first one in the ACCCG
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 15, 2022, 5:10 PM
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Dj is a project
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 15, 2022, 10:12 PM
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Why would a school pay huge nil $$ for a project?
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 15, 2022, 11:32 PM
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We did, DJ has an incredible arm and talent. It’s all, every bit of it in his head. He could figure this out and win the Heisman but in reality he may never figure it out. It will be a huge waste of an incredibly talented QB if he doesn’t figure it out.
Dabo has said he will play in the NFL after another year. Dabo knows he has the ability or he wouldn’t have left him in the games.
DJ has to get his ADHD cleared up, I have ADHD and some Ritalin could change his world, in my opinion.
I wish him the best, I hate it he couldn’t reach his potential here.
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 15, 2022, 7:18 PM
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I only read Italics. Don't tell anyone.
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 15, 2022, 11:08 PM
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If Kenny Pickett can go from where he was to top pick, DJ just needs to improve as much as he did this season again and forget about being afraid to pull the trigger quickly.
A new team might be the best thing for him to achieve success. It’s all in his head now, it’s not about talent.
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 15, 2022, 11:55 PM
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I only wish the best for DJU.
But he is SO far from being an NFL caliber player. Tajh Boyd looked like a pretty much sure-thing NFL QB and he couldn't even make a roster.
Portal rankings are still judging DJU by his ratings coming out of high school.
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Re: PFF transfer portal ranking for Uiagalelei
Dec 17, 2022, 9:18 AM
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Jeff George threw a very pretty ball that was very "catchable". Yet he sucked as a pro QB. The point is that its hard to figure out who will be a good QB. Got to be accurate, read a defense at the line of scrimmage, avoid the rush even if you are slow ala Brady, and be a leader. Tough prerequisite for the job and why the pay is so high. Trevor is sure looking like a good one this year.
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