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Graham Neffs hires vs. DRads hires
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Baseball:
DRad: Monte Lee. Fired after multiple underachieving seasons during a 7 year stint.
Neff: Erik Bakich. Won the conference last year and is leading the tigers during a really promising season. His team is currently #3 in the nation.
Women’s basketball:
DRad: Amanda Butler. Didn’t have the best resume, having regressed at Florida. Fired after leading the lady tigers to multiple sub .500 seasons during a 6 year stint.
Neff: Shawn Poppie. Time will tell if he pans out, but this hire looks super promising. Led UT Chattanooga to tourney appearances during both of his seasons there, and had a much better resume than Butler.
The future of Clemson Athletics looks bright, with superb coaching hires by a great young athletic director. Meanwhile, Miami has struggled with mediocrity in all sports during DRad’s tenure there.
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Re: Graham Neffs hires vs. DRads hires
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Mar 27, 2024, 1:26 AM
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Its often said any good AD keeps a short list for every sport just in case.
I would love to see the list for mens basketball.
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Re: Graham Neffs hires vs. DRads hires
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It's a very short list:
Brad Brownell.
The End.
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Re: Graham Neffs hires vs. DRads hires
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Mar 27, 2024, 11:38 AM
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LOL. Goodun
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It is way past time for you to put down the bourbon bottle and back way
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Mar 27, 2024, 9:32 AM
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from the keyboard. Clemson has a basketball coach. A #### good one. And you Bozos beating the fire drum need to wake up and realize it.
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Yep, Shawn Poppie looks like the real deal
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Mar 27, 2024, 9:33 AM
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A #### good one indeed...
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DRad also made two other poor womens basketball hires
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Mar 27, 2024, 1:27 AM
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Two failed volleyball ones, and two failed men’s tennis. The one that he hit on was Rittman for softball
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Not to mention Neff's gymnastics and lacrosse hires
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Mar 27, 2024, 1:29 AM
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Both of them put their programs in the top 25 during their inaugural season.
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Re: Not to mention Neff's gymnastics and lacrosse hires
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Neff didn't hire Kwolek. As for gymnastics, Neff followed the drad map for start-up programs. Both had to hire proven coaches that had a history of putting new programs together.
As for Bakich. Neff may get that credit, but the BOT essentially told him who to hire.
Neff's responsibility as assistant was to be very involved in basketball. So Neff was very involved with hiring Amanda Butler.
Time will tell if he made good hires on tennis and womens basketball.
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Re: Graham Neffs hires vs. DRads hires
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I believe DRads specialty was/is fund raising for facility enhancements. This was big for Clemson, and he did help the state of athletics overall, I believe. Neff seems to be doing well, only time will tell!
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Re: Graham Neffs hires vs. DRads hires
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Neff will also be remembered as the AD that led us out of the ACC.
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You're right about DRad being hired for fund raising
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Mar 27, 2024, 8:26 AM
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but I believe Ray Tanner could have ran this athletic department just as well with Dabo winning 2 NC and always in the playoffs.
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The Athletic Department had a lot to do with Dabos succcess.***
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Re: The Athletic Department had a lot to do with Dabos succcess.***
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Do you have a search bot that identifies any post containing the word “Dabo” so you can make sniping comments in response to every post with his name in it?
Most Clemson fans just enjoy the success our football program has seen. Kinda like we are enjoying the success our basketball team is having this year.
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Re: The Athletic Department had a lot to do with Dabos succcess.***
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DRad, lost his Clemson opinions when he chose to head to Miami, keep them to yourself. We do thank you for leaving, one of the best things that has happened to Clemson.
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Re: The Athletic Department had a lot to do with Dabos succcess.***
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He/she must. Such a weak shade thrower. Really.
Dabo came in like a baller, set the tone on day 1. Came to fruition 5 ish years later.
Administration and Dept had NOTHING to do with that fire he brought to the trail and field. Wow.
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You are wrong Pigskin Breath
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After losing to South Carolina five years in a row, a lot of Clemson fans wanted Dabo gone. But then AD Terry Don Phillips stepped up and make it clear Dabo was his man. The rest is history.
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No personal attacks***
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Re: You are wrong Pigskin Breath
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This is not true. No one wanted Dabo gone. It was quite obvious what he was building and how he was raising the bar from the talent he was bringing in.
Spurrier did have his number. But the “Carolina is in Chapel Hill” take cemented his fire and enthusiasm across the fan base.
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Re: You are wrong Pigskin Breath
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Again you are wrong. NO ONE was calling for Dabo’s ouster after an 11-2 season with wins over UGA and Ohio St. No one.
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Re: You are wrong Pigskin Breath
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Your timing is off a little. The 5 game losing streak was 2009-2013. Phillips was athletic director from 2002-2012. How could Phillips have made any decision regarding Dabo “after losing to South Carolina five years in a row”?
I know, facts don’t matter when y’all take shots at Dabo. So it is you that is wrong, but still doesn’t warrant calling you names.
For reference - you said “After losing to South Carolina five years in a row, a lot of Clemson fans wanted Dabo gone. But then AD Terry Don Phillips stepped up and make it clear Dabo was his man. ”
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Dabo brought the fire, for sure.
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Dabo had a plan and a vision, which is awesome.
But the administration hired him, gave him a platform, encouraged him to share his vision publicly, and supported his vision with significant sums of money including facility upgrades, staff hires, etc.
It was a team effort. But for the Dabo cult, we can't acknowledge anyone else's help or involvement, because that would somehow take credit away from what Dabo has done.
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Yes, we should enjoy the success.
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Our athletic department success under Radakovich could've been appreciated, with Dan's contributions acknowledged, but NO, the Dabo cult has to turn it into Dabo's doing. To the cult, Radakovich can't be given credit for anything, but rather, Dabo gets credit.
I see Dabo credited on TNet for not only football success, but success in other sports, increase in applications to Clemson, the increase in Clemson's academic standing, and economic development in Clemson. It would be hilarious if it weren't so ludicrous.
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How exactly did D-Rad win the 2 national championships?
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Did he call the plays? Recruit guys like Watson/Lawrence? Hire guys like Venables? By winning those 2 nattys, Dabo got us more funding and made us a household name. You Brad Cultists hate to see another coach's success here at Clemson.
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No one is suggesting that Dabo doesn't deserve credit
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Mar 27, 2024, 10:52 AM
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for our two national championships.
The point is that Dabo isn't the only reason we won them. A whole lot of other people worked hard to make that happen, and were key ingredients in it happening.
Radakovich, who was Dabo's boss, was absolutely part of it and deserves credit too.
Clemson was already a household name before Dabo made us an elite football program.
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Clemsoning was the household name at that time
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the glory days were 20 years earlier.
DRad is way down on the list as to why we are a successful football program.
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You suggested it twice in your post.
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"Our athletic department success under Radakovich could've been appreciated, with Dan's contributions acknowledged, but NO, the Dabo cult has to turn it into Dabo's doing. To the cult, Radakovich can't be given credit for anything, but rather, Dabo gets credit." Nice try.
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Dabo's success is the reason for increase applications and the economic
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developments in the city. Laugh all you want but he put Clemson back on the map. The buildings wouldn't be built if not for 7 Saturday's in the fall.
Give credit to DRad for softball but to think he's the reason behind football success is crazy.
And as far as the 2 cults go, I'll take the one with multiple playoff appearances and 2 National Championships versus 2 wins at Chapel Hill and a borderline .500 league record.
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LMAO, that's one of the funniest things I've ever heard!!
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"He put Clemson back on the map." LOL LOL!!
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Re: LMAO, that's one of the funniest things I've ever heard!!
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I'll give you one better. Brad Brownell is an elite coach.
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Re: Yes, we should enjoy the success.
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If you don’t think that the football success and exposure isn’t the reason for increased applications, then you sir are bind or an idiot. Dabo is directly responsible for that success whether you want to admit it or not. That is a you problem. I’m far from a Dabo fan boy. But to try to stand on that hill is stupid. The board may have approved the money but who told them where it was needed?
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Re: The Athletic Department had a lot to do with Dabos succcess.***
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It's a chicken or egg thing - which came first ... Dabo's success or CUAD's support. I am willing to give Dabo much of the credit.
I thought you were critical of the level of support / resources for basketball under DRad?
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I give DRad credit for playing a role in the renovation of Littlejohn.
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I would've liked to see him do more for the basketball program, but overall I think he was a good AD.
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The athletic department hired the coach who did those things.
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And paid him handsomely, and gave him shiny new facilities, and funded assistant coaches and support staff at record levels who helped him do those things.
If you're suggesting that Dabo accomplished everything by himself, then let's stop putting so much money into the football program. Let's stop upgrading facilities. Let's stop having one of the highest coaching staff budgets in the country. And let's stop showing up for games. I mean, if Dabo does it all by himself, he shouldn't need any help.
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Re: The athletic department hired the coach who did those things.
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What the heck do you think the $63.5M to LJC was in 2016!? What do you think the $40M announced last year was!??
Monumental support for MBB.
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Re: The athletic department hired the coach who did those things.
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Sure the athletic department was giving him the money but he was driving the ship. They were just the check book. Again who made the decision to put the money where. DABO SWINNEY! I agree he couldn’t have done it without the board but to say they deserve the majority or even a large part of the credit is laughable.
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Re: Graham Neffs hires vs. DRads hires
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Who hired Lacrosse and Gymnastics?
Who hired our former Chief Marketing Officer?
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I am a big Graham Neff fan.
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He gets it.
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Re: I am a big Graham Neff fan.
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I’m sure you are after he gave your boy a mulligan last year.
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And the year before that...
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That's the only problem I have with him.
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And he used that mulligan
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To hit a 350-yard drive right down the middle. And earn an extension. The only thing Coach BroWnell will never earn at Clemson is respect from The Lunatic Fringe. They are dug in trolls who are never going to give up.
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Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while***
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Who hired these coaches?
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They seem to be home runs so far.
Men's and women's soccer
Softball
Gymnastics
Lacrosse
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Terry Don hired Noonan and Radwanski
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D-Rad hired Rittman and Kwolek, who are arguably his best hires during his AD tenure here, and Neff hired Smith.
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All this Hiring and Firing is TIRING!
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It is worth admiring.***
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Re: Graham Neffs hires vs. DRads hires
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All of y’all hating on DRad over his comments are a bit ridiculous. The man is now the AD for Miami. His job is to do look out for Miami’s best interest.
When he was at Clemson he looked out for Clemson’s best interest. Best believe he’d be all for the lawsuit if he were still here.
As for his hires compared to Neff, how can anyone compare? Neff hasn’t been here long enough.
Monte was a heck of a hire and one of the most sought after coaches that season. Anyone would have hired him. Monte and Bakich have almost identical starts. So time will tell if Bakich the better hire. He looks good right now for sure.
You absolutely can’t jump the gun on WBB. The dude hasn’t even coached a game here yet.
One thing I know is he was very instrumental in getting a lot of these facilities built and knows how to make the program money. Let the man do his thing in Miami. He doesn’t have to be our enemy because he is just looking out for Miami.
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