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Biden's 80 years old and demented.

Aug 27, 2023, 12:14 PM

So forgive me for not taking his advice. No better than Trump's bleach advice actually.

But this is a good thing to study and research. If we could invent a "vaccine" to stop covid transmission (we can't), we could cure the common cold viruses, and influenza. Until then, just get a fluvid shot every year and that's as good as we can do. Keeping in mind we only have nature as a guide. Even splitting the atom was something that was guided by knowledge of nature.

There are many viruses that vaccines simply don't/can't cure or eradicate. Covid is one of them. And to make a vaccine to cure those viruses will require something far different than viral vector/inactivated virus/mRNA vaccines/etc. In fact the whole vaccine concept is something we should get past because it will not be a vaccine that stops covid and influenza.

And it's no irony that bats, of all species, hold the best clues on how to accomplish this. We study bats because they don't get covid, influenza, colds, herpes, HIV, and countless other viruses. And that's why we have the problem we have currently. What we have learned though, is that bats are uniquely designed, and evolved, to not become ill with viruses. This does NOT mean they're immune to viruses, they just don't suffer from them. The replication happens, the transmission happens (in bats), BUT the illness is avoided. And that is actually tied into the uniquely high metabolism bats have, and more specifically their mitochondria structure.

This is what Chinese scientists have(had) been studying when covid likely escaped a lab somewhere. And we know enough now to know that the traits bats have, that prevent them from suffering from viral illnesses, is something we can't replicate in humans. If we found a way to avoid viral illnesses like bats, we would cease to be humans. It's really what it all boils down to IMO. There is much more promise in creating a treatment from bat studies than a vaccine. Because even in bats, who are "immune" to viruses, they still contract, replicate, and transmit them. And I think if the truth be known, humans are very similar. We contract, replicate, and transmit MANY viruses we don't even know about because we only discover viruses when they have an impact (you get sick).

And the pandemic has actually expanded knowledge about viruses far beyond what we ever knew previously. For example, Influenza-D is a strain of influenza humans do not get. We are immune to that strain. Now pigs get influenza-d readily, and frequently, and we are frequently exposed to pigs, but humans don't get influenza-D. Well, just so happens we do. We just don't get ill or have any symptoms. They studied farm workers on a farm in Mexico where a swine herd was decimated by influenza-d. An environment where there was certainly exposure. Not a single farm worker on the farm had any symptoms of illness from influenza or anything else. BUT, they tested all the farm workers anyway and noted that 40% carried human specific-antibodies to influenza-d in their blood. A virus with no known human cases, was present, and attacked by human immune systems in 40% of those closely exposed to it. Since it was successful, we're none the wiser. We're "immune" to it. But not.

And this is why the term immunity, and vaccines, are often misunderstood. Immunity does not mean you don't GET a virus, it means you don't get sick from it. Now immunity CAN stop transmission, sometimes, with some viruses, but immunity also can just prevent illness, and we're none the wiser for thinking we don't get a virus when in fact we do but never know. And ANY virus that can be transmitted, even if we never have symptoms, CAN evolve to be a human pandemic.

This is a very fundamental change that has happened in understanding (many) viruses that most people don't understand. Scientists need to stop banging their heads on a wall trying to invent "vaccines" (for some viruses) and instead find a way to treat it with a shot, a pill, or whatever else. Because some viruses have abilities to transmit that humans/mammals can't evolve to beat. It's that simple. Even bats, who hardly ever get ill from viruses, still carry them, replicate them, and transmit them.

And I HOPE we are funding research into alternatives other than "vaccines". We learned essentially the same thing with HIV. You're not going to eradicate it, there is no vaccine to prevent infection and or transmission, but there ARE very good treatment options to short-circuit replication. And THIS is what Paxlovid does with covid. And Molnupiravir as well. And that is the track scientists need to follow for covid, IMO.

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Roll Up Your Sleeves

Probably similar to flu shot…

Re: Probably similar to flu shot…

Biden's 80 years old and demented.

Probably similar to flu shot…

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I wish he'd try and get states to have an Article V

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