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Do I have this right?
Jun 28, 2020, 10:08 AM
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If I create a pro-police post, such as one about the off-duty Dallas police officer that was beaten unconscious or against a change to a police policy, then I'm a racist, pro-Trump guy that's most likely part of Bugaboo or the KKK.
If I create a pro-equality post, such as one that highlights the guy in Valdosta that had his wrist broken by the police when they stopped the wrong person or an article about NFL player's experience with racism, then I am a far-left liberal that only really about advancing marxism and is most likely part of Antifa.
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Re: Do I have this right?
Jun 28, 2020, 10:15 AM
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Sounds like you're in a pickle. Maybe you shouldn't post.
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Re: Yep. That's the way it works. And whatever you do, DON'T
Jun 28, 2020, 10:35 AM
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Wow, those are super racist facts.
What is sad, is that I am sure there are libs in power that will call for and probably enact (without approval) for these stats NOT to be collected/reported.
It is coming soon.
Soon it will also not be allowed to show a mug shot of a black criminal on local news.
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No. Do the math.
Jun 28, 2020, 11:30 AM
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From the numbers you linked:
Black on white was 17.6% of all committed against white.
White on black was 5.4% of all committed against black.
Thus, the total number of interracial acts (black and white only) were 0.176(1.15 M) + 0.054(258,000) = 203,000 + 14,000 = 217,000.
So, black on white was 203,000/217,000 = 93.6%
White on black was 14,000/217,000 = 6.4%.
Now both the OP and the stats you linked list exclusions. So, the numbers aren’t gonna match up exactly because they excluded different things. And I’m on my phone and can’t go back to look at the OP numbers. Seems like the totals are way different but the percentages are roughly the same. I’m guessing most of the discrepancy is due to the exclusions listed by both.
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Re: No. Do the math.
Jun 28, 2020, 1:04 PM
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Yep. Libbies are a special kind of stupid. Very special. Yet they are convinced they are way smarter than you.
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Re: No. Do the math.
Jun 28, 2020, 2:38 PM
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Even by liberal standards, that guy is exceptionally stupid.
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Re: That is way off!
Jun 28, 2020, 11:55 AM
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Maff is hard for some folks .
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Re: Digimini, run your own stats--they are identical
Jun 28, 2020, 12:07 PM
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Both of you are using the exact same stats.
Your point is that blacks only commited 15% of violent crimes vs whites in 2018. Considering they only comprise 13% of our population, that's not huge.
His point is two-fold: violent crimes committed by whites vs. blacks in 2018 was only 10.6%, out of a total population of over 60%. Also, when simply comparing the two, blacks committed 90% of the interracial violent crimes.
Those are legitimate numbers using YOUR source.
Put another way, if 13% of the population committed 15% of the violent interracial crimes (black community), and 60% of the population committed 10.6% of the interracial violent crimes (white community) , the average black person committed over 6x the violent interracial crimes than the average white person. Using your statistics.
So what conclusions should we draw, using YOUR statistics? Well, we know most blacks don't commit interracial violent crime, but we have to accept the statistics: so let's assume that only 20% of blacks perpetrate ALL the violent interracial crime. If we suppose that white society is racist, and all whites are susceptible to committing violent interracial crimes, so no white person is exempted from the formula, then each white person is guilty of about 0.17 of an interracial violent crime in 2018. But the black perps under our assumption are guilty over 30x more often than the white perps.
First conclusion: So either whites are NOT systemic racists, or blacks commit far more interracial violent crimes than white per capita. Or both. Per YOUR statistics.
And the second conclusion is that these are not the statistics that matter most anyway. The greatest tragedy is your 70% stat: black on black. Over 120 dead on Father's Day in Chicago. B on B. Nobody cares. Hundreds of thousands of black abortions in NYC every year. No one cares. In Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Baltimore, St Louis, etc., the cops protect the minorities most of all. The predators are crying in the streets, and you idiots feel sorry for them and make it easier for them to prey on the weak and helpless.
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Re: Digimini, run your own stats--they are identical
Jun 28, 2020, 5:12 PM
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RW43, Post is right on target!
I have tried bring up the tragedy of the high rate of black on black crime. There responses blew me away. It’s all because of past enslavement and oppression of the black race by whites even though the fist slave owners were Black people who owned black people. According one source these slave owners were more brutal towards their slaves than white slave owners. Many black communities want change but it benefits a lot of black leader’s financially to keep positive change from happening.
I believe This is where change must Start. All races working together to bring change to the poor and needy but not through socialism. It has to happen through people loving each other. Putting the past behind us for our future if there is to be one in this country.
You should listen to some of Judge Jeanine’s interviews. Should appeared on the talk show the view. She was verbally attacked by woopi goldberg who is about as far left as you can get. Go to YouTube and search for her Fox News interview about the incident. You want find it in the main stream news. Also on YouTube are the Conservative Twins, Derek Van Schalk and Mr. Reagan all great shows that are very educational. They get attacked by violent groups such as BLM.
The shows address black on black crime and how liberial politicians have passed just enough civil rights legislation to give black communities coming back to the democrats everytime but not enough to make major changes needed in the inner city communities.
In God’s eyes All Lives Matter.
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Allow me to do the math for you
Jun 28, 2020, 12:47 PM
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Larry Elder's (black guy, btw) statistic is about INTERRACIAL violence. Using your embedded source:
Number of incidents on whites = 3,581,360 percentage of those incidents from a black offender = 15.3% Number of whites attacked by blacks = 547,948 (thats .153 X 3,581,360)
Number of incidents on blacks = 563,940 percentage of those incidents from white offender = 10.6% Number of blacks attacked by whites = 59,778
So, the number of interracial (only including blacks and white) violence incidents: 607,726 percentage of those being black on white: 90.2% (547,948 divided by 607,726) percentage of those being white on black: 9.8% (59,778 divided by 607,726)
"Now are you going to change your point of view????"
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Crickets
Jun 28, 2020, 2:48 PM
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Just lob insults and accusations that the information was incorrect because it came from "right wing sources." Accuse a man of "spreading lies." Then, when others do the math for you, you don't own it? Can we at least get a, "my bad?"
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You skeered him off. Must be the color of crickets.........***
Jun 28, 2020, 3:23 PM
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More like the color of a canary
Jun 28, 2020, 3:56 PM
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And the intellect of a grapefruit.
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Re: Crickets
Jun 28, 2020, 4:17 PM
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No, you will never get a retraction from him. His sole purpose of existence is to create distortion and confusion. He always bends the truth to make it appear like a lie. These kind of people are to be avoided like plague and called out. Thank you for your break down and calling him out!
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Liberals say
Jun 28, 2020, 12:54 PM
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math is hard
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Facts don’t matter. Only feelings matter.
Jun 28, 2020, 1:15 PM
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Naturally, outcomes where liberals rule suck. But that shouldn’t matter because they feel pretty darn good about themselves.
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They are good at assuming a million..............
Jun 28, 2020, 3:23 PM
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Counting not so much.................
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Re: Liberals say
Jun 28, 2020, 5:13 PM
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But they believe in the science
they believe in.
So long as it doesn’t require math.
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Re: Do I have this right?
Jun 28, 2020, 10:47 AM
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Either situation gives many in the press(not all) an opportunity to create their own false narrative as they have done in the past.
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Re: Do I have this right?
Jun 28, 2020, 11:41 AM
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The government reporting violent crimes not reported rose. If they are not reported how can they say it rose that much?
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Sounds about right. There are not Fifty Shades of Grey
Jun 28, 2020, 12:04 PM
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anymore, seems like there is not even one. The words "intelligent" and "discussion or debate" being used together in the same sentence went out the window when Trump got elected and the Democrats decided to become the Anti-Republican party, instead of trying to "reach across the aisle" and find some common ground that could benefit the American people. What's happening in the public at large right now is just an extension of what has been happening in Congress.
Don't try to argue with me, my opinion is the only right one, period! (Said with tongue firmly implanted in cheek.)
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Re: Sounds about right. There are not Fifty Shades of Grey
Jun 28, 2020, 12:12 PM
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Right cheek, or left?
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Re: Sounds about right. There are not Fifty Shades of Grey
Jun 28, 2020, 12:50 PM
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Maybe.
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Orange Blooded [3338]
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Correct
Jun 28, 2020, 12:34 PM
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And, either way, you're an idiot and are going to burn in h3ll for all of eternity.
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Re: Do I have this right?
Jun 28, 2020, 4:41 PM
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In a rational thinking society both incidents are a problem in this country. Racism against any race is wrong but unfortunately it exist on both sides. Sadly we are not living in a rational thinking society right now. So either way someone is going to wrongly judge you.
BengalBilly makes a great point to but he is right many blacks and whites refuse to look at true facts.
For example have you heard much news coverage about the 3 black teenager girls who started the fight on a bus or subway. Then filed false police reports of hate crimes. The Judge did not think it was to funny. They could face several years in prison. The college without checking the facts held a protest in support of the 3 girls. They are tripping over their feet trying to back track. Now calling for a detailed investigation.
But it is as just as bad when an educator posted she was proud to be white. With a Confederate Flag with her tweet.
2 stupid incidents that do nothing but cause more division of the races and instigate more stupid things. These are just a couple of many idiotic actions by whites and blacks!
And what has all of this insanity accomplished??? Nothing but more hate!
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