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USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 15, 2016, 12:45 PM
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After reading the Korncoot,Chump is burning it up recruiting in state for 2017, I thought I might need to check up on their barn burning progress. Undoubtedly, the Coots have now been reduced to level of being excited just because offers have been issued.
http://southcarolina.247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/Commits
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 15, 2016, 12:55 PM
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Yeah, they're off to a fast chicken strut with one commit -- and that guy is a 3-star. Korncoot lies and exaggerates for USuC.
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Re: He is a homer.***
Feb 15, 2016, 1:13 PM
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Re: He is a homer.***
Feb 20, 2016, 1:29 AM
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Everybody knows Phil went to USC and his brother went to Georgia. Good people, just chose wrong.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 15, 2016, 1:21 PM
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You are completely correct.
Be prepared for Korncoot to inflate, over-sell, enhance, embellish, and otherwise SPIN Chumps recruiting "accomplishments". He will do this to try and inject himself into the process and paint a picture intended for prospective recruits that Cootlumbia is a "hot", "trending", program.
Don't be fooled!
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 15, 2016, 1:27 PM
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All you need to know about their recruiting...
They just hired an Ambassador for their school that they were happy quit because he wasn't being an ambassador for their school.
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We're back to normal
Feb 15, 2016, 1:27 PM
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We get the kids we want, they get the scraps and the thugs. hth.
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To be de-committed later***
Feb 15, 2016, 1:45 PM
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 15, 2016, 1:55 PM
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Just last month this board was convinced we struggle to break the top 40 for the 2016 class. We finished at like 26.
It's a little early to be knocking our 2017 class.
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And all you had to do
Feb 15, 2016, 1:58 PM
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was oversign, cut guys, keep getting commits to make up for the decootments and lie/cheat/steal to get to about 30th. Face facts, if teams behind you would have signed 25+ guys you would have been about 50th. The real number that matters is 3. Let's see if you can get to 5 this year. That'll determine how you recoot.
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Re: And all you had to do
Feb 15, 2016, 11:09 PM
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They have so much to look forward to in Cooterville. The legend Stever Spurrier could not win there. The legendary Lou Holtz could not win there. Now, now they have Will Muschamp; the man who took over an elite UF program and drug it into the ground in a few short years. Yes, many bright days ahead in Cooterville.
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Re: And all you had to do
Feb 16, 2016, 2:24 PM
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How dere you say Old Spur couldn't win there, He won that one division title and then went to the championship game and got beat 56-10 or something for the greater good of the SEC. Come On, that's just like winning an actual title!
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Re: And all you had to do
Feb 16, 2016, 9:43 PM
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I am sure that in some way Coots have figured out how it is better than actually winning.
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You finished 26th in ONE poll....
Feb 15, 2016, 2:10 PM
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I believe all of the other polls had you outside the top 30. Granted, that's a little better than 40th but the ranking is based largely on quantity and not quality and a few of them which are likely academic casualties may never enroll.
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Re: You finished 26th in ONE poll....
Feb 15, 2016, 2:13 PM
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Look that was almost a compliment by Biggie.
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Hey...I'm just happy that you're happy
Feb 15, 2016, 2:34 PM
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As long as you clowns are content with mediocrity and to celebrate moral victories, nothing is likely to change.
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Re: Hey...I'm just happy that you're happy
Feb 15, 2016, 2:38 PM
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Wait we should be upset we just signed the 26th best recruiting class?
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Re: Hey...I'm just happy that you're happy
Feb 15, 2016, 2:48 PM
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You should be upset period....
You're irrelevant in your conference and your state....
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Re: Hey...I'm just happy that you're happy
Feb 15, 2016, 3:01 PM
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Sure are a lot of threads about us if we are irrelevant...
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Re: Hey...I'm just happy that you're happy
Feb 15, 2016, 4:05 PM
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It's not that y'all are irrelevant to us (ya have been for over a century ). It's that watching the suffering and the related delusion is like a fun show on Fox ...people tune in to laugh but nobody takes it very seriously .
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^^^could be a reasonable point^^^
Feb 15, 2016, 4:32 PM
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heck - wouldn't know what to do without the rivalry where we can viciously attack each other over the obscurity of the interweeb.
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Re: Hey...I'm just happy that you're happy
Feb 15, 2016, 4:51 PM
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Well we have to go to church with you, work with you, live with you, hell some people have to sleep with you....
So naturally we're going to talk about you....
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Re: Hey...I'm just happy that you're happy
Feb 16, 2016, 7:31 AM
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> Sure are a lot of threads about us if we are > irrelevant...
There are also a lot of funny fart jokes. Doesn't make farts any more important.
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Not at all especially if you're happy with 10th in the $EC
Feb 15, 2016, 2:56 PM
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and continuing to be Clemson's b!tch for the foreseeable future.
As I said, I'm just happy that you're happy.
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Actually think Will is a pretty solid kid - local Colo kid
Feb 15, 2016, 4:38 PM
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got no problems with him at all -
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Never, NEVER! Please for the love of all things never again
Feb 16, 2016, 7:36 AM
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Mix up Chapin for the cesspool to is 20 minutes to our south
TIA
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What warped minded individual created that gif? LOL.***
Feb 15, 2016, 10:36 PM
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Re: Well executed, '09.
Feb 16, 2016, 6:57 AM
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That looks like soon to be ex!!
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 16, 2016, 10:06 AM
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> Just last month this board was convinced we struggle > to break the top 40 for the 2016 class. We finished > at like 26. > > It's a little early to be knocking our 2017 class.
I do not mean to be...dismissive, but you did not get the #26 class in the country in 2016. Your top-ranked player was a JUCO.
It was an emergency class and it was probably the worst effort from what had become an increasingly stagnant recruiting push from Spurrier's old staff...yes, Coach Boom jumped in and paddled frantically at the end, but he really didn't change anything or land anybody of note, and the guys you got were largely unwanted, and unpursued, by other teams. Alone among your recruits was one guy who was offered by Clemson...a guy Clemson offered as a safety, and whom Carolina got as a wide receiver.
Those were largely second, and mostly third and fourth, tier guys. There really weren't any blue-chip, 20+ offer guys who could have written their tickets anywhere. And there were a bunch of major character concerns and former problem children in that group.
Muschamp will probably do better in 2017. Muschamp needs to win some games on the field and start getting some inertia off it, and win some key head-to-head battles with some key swing recruits and start getting some building-block guys to build around, though, or it could be tough sledding to shop at the level he's used to shopping at Texas and UF and Auburn...because South Carolina is just plain not at that level right now.
Maybe alone among Clemson fans, I actually wish Coach Boom some luck. I personally think a strong South Carolina is good for Clemson...it elevates our stature when people pay attention to the rivalry, and it puts a headline game at the close of every season that (would have) bumped up our SOS and given us a quality win for the perusal of The Committee. A 3-9 Carolina squad did not help Clemson last year...and if Clemson had stumbled even once during the season, that quality OOC win just would not have been there that would have gotten the Tigers into the playoff, as it did for Michigan State and Alabama and Oklahoma, who all had one loss but survived it.
Most importantly, a strong South Carolina gives Clemson a level to shoot for; Clemson got over the top in 2015 in no small part, I think, because Clemson was so durn tired of getting owned by its archrival. Tommy Bowden owned Lou Holtz, pretty much year after year, and it made him complacent...Spurrier did Dabo the favor of schooling him, and giving Dabo an archnemesis to chase and eventually overcome. I think it made Dabo a better coach to have a wily veteran rival showing him up; it definitely made Clemson a stronger program to have to fight to stay relevant, even at home. You don't get better unless you play, well, the best, and when Spurrier still had an edge on his game he was one of the best in the business.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 16, 2016, 10:10 AM
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GOOD OLD QUOZ WITH ANOTHER NOVEL. ANY RED BLOODED TIGER FAN WOULD NEVER WANT THE COOTS TO SUCCEED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 16, 2016, 10:25 AM
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Quozzel,
You don't think you're being a bit irrational with your assessment? If we were competing with the team that finished 10th in the country for recruits we probably would have finished higher than 26th.
McIlwain had offers from Penn State, Ohio State, Miami, Auburn and Florida. Clemson is also listed as a team that offered on both 247 and rivals.
Keir Thomas was once committed to FSU. He had offers from Miami and Auburn.
Randrecous Smith was committed to UGA and had offers from Miami.
Yes we weren't signing the top 100 kids but these kids aren't fourth tier prospects like you're claiming.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 16, 2016, 12:11 PM
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There were a couple that for whatever reason decided to stick or go to USC who maybe could have played for Top-25 schools. Not many. And there was a bunch of space-holders and warm-bodies at the end, too, guys even Coach Ayers at Wofford didn't have the sads because he lost out on.
I was still completely unimpressed, by and large, and the kids who had some quality - I kind of liked Marlon Character, for instance - "decooted", as they say, and went elsewhere. Definitely not a group where I was seeing guys like Clowney, Kelcy Quarles, Brandon Shell, etc, or the year before that when you'd see Marcus Lattimore, AJ Cann, Victor Hampton, Corey Robinson, Connor Shaw, etc...it was a different world then, and you especially saw Carolina getting dominant, massive players in the trenches. There was a stretch where Carolina may have had the biggest and most physical lines in college football. We're not even in the same zip code right now.
Like I said, as a fan, I think it's best that Clemson/Carolina is an event...a motherhuge, statewide, attention-getting Event, with a Capital "E", that everybody in the country is paying attention to. From a recruiting/publicity standpoint the best possible thing would be for Carolina and Clemson to come in #1 and #2 every single year, with all the college football world watching, the biggest rivalry in the country. So I'll personally root for Carolina to do well...as long as they're not playing Clemson.
This isn't politics. This isn't some ethnic grudge. It's a sporting event, a sports rivalry, and I'd like to see the best one on the planet every year if I can. And Carolina needs to do its part. Last year honestly stunk; Clemson was just trying to get the game over and done with and get to the playoffs, nobody nationally was paying attention, the level of football was pretty...low, and even when Carolina got within 5 at the end you never really got the sense the game was ever in question. Fortunately Clemson got some much better games - UNC in the ACC title game, Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl, Alabama in the National Title Game - that sort of obscured how boring the Carolina game was this past year, but as an every-year thing, no, I would not want to see a Clemson/Carolina game that uninspired, or with that little fan or national interest around it. Long term, that hurts both programs.
Does anybody get excited to play Vandy? Playing a lame-duck rival is no rivalry at all. The stakes have to matter. It's amazing how some people don't get that.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 16, 2016, 12:49 PM
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Hard to fairly compare kids that have finished their college careers to kids who have never played a college game.
You criticized Brandon McIlwain a few weeks ago and he was a four start elite 11 qb. I highly doubt you would have spoken highly of Connor Shaw who was a mere 3 star guy without any big offers and had height concerns.
I also doubt you would have spoken highly of Corey Robinson. He was a three star project who was switched to defense during his redshirt freshman year and it was thought he was about to be out the door. Swearinger was just a three star recruit as well.
I actually think this class has much more in common with those underrated guys who made us successful than you give us credit. Guys like Evan Hinson who had a committable offer to Southern Cal have a lot of athleticism. He could play division 1 basketball and has the potential to be coached into an elite TE.
Then you have a guy like Davis who is an unpolished route runners but has legitimate track speed. He could end up a corner if WR fails like Chris Culliver.
Our last couple of cycles have taken a bunch of guys like David Johnson who were tweeters. Our current class has a bunch of DEs who have legitimate size and athleticism. They could end up busts but they could be serviceable players. I don't expect them to be elite DEs like Xavier Kelly but they're better then what we have on campus.
You're right though that we had to take some reaches on kids recruited at lower levels. But you're fooling yourself if you think they're not skilled enough for FCS.
Some of those kids may end up being cut from the team in two years. But when you have a roster in disarray like we have it does you no good to leave those scholarships vacant. Wish we had taken Lorenzo Mauldin a couple years ago than the kids we thought were better than him.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 16, 2016, 2:13 PM
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Funny you should mention Corey Robinson...I saw him at the 2009 Shrine Bowl, I think, and watched him in one of the NC squad's practices. Kid was...IMMENSE, maybe the biggest OL prospect I've ever seen in my life, and he had some of the heaviest hands I'd ever seen, just rocked guys when he locked on.
Also seemed to have Cory Lambert disease...seemed oddly passive and was just plain "nice"...I dunno, I was watching him, kept changing my mind if I was seeing a guy who didn't need to play football, ever, or if I was watching a 5-star. The 3-star rating he got probably split the difference. But it was obvious he was something different. I'd have DEFINITELY rolled the dice on that one...and the Gamecock coaches did, and got an NFL left tackle. Which was definitely a possibility anybody with eyes could have foreseen.
And everybody who ever watched Chris Culliver knew he was a DB.
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I'm convinced...
Feb 17, 2016, 6:36 PM
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that come November we're going to bomb the coots back to the Stone Age.
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You realize Duke had a better avg star rating, right?
Feb 17, 2016, 10:00 PM
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And in the SEC, only Mizzou, UK, and Vandy were worse. You are drinking large amounts of kool aid.
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#spursstilldown***
Feb 15, 2016, 2:30 PM
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Surprised that they haven't hung a banner for him yet
Feb 15, 2016, 5:29 PM
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the best recruiter in USCjr's history...
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 15, 2016, 10:28 PM
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Reminds me of the excitement generated by Todd Ellis over another Carolina first down. I haven't lived a moral life and he'll surely has its grips on me, I just know Todd Ellis saying that will be on a constant loop and played loud
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 15, 2016, 10:43 PM
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If they could not recruit with a legend like Steve Spurrier (being serious) they sure as heck are not going to be able to recruit with a third tier coach like Muscoot.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 16, 2016, 8:32 AM
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Muscoot is known for his recruiting. You're going to be disappointed if you expect us to recruit poorly under him.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 16, 2016, 9:26 AM
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His is also known for his coaching - MULTIPLE TIMES!
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 16, 2016, 9:32 AM
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That's going to be interesting to see. Can muschamp develop a competent offense? That is the question.
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has he even come close yet?***
Feb 17, 2016, 3:09 PM
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Re: has he even come close yet?***
Feb 17, 2016, 9:54 PM
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I think he did coach a good quarter one time at UF.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 17, 2016, 9:53 PM
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I think that question has been answered at Florida.
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No, Chump could recruit at UF,UT & Auburn.
Feb 17, 2016, 4:00 PM
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USuC is a different animal,the highest rated recruits this year were Slurrier commits . He already found out what it's like recruiting for USuC when he thought he could go in on Feaster. Feaster's too nice, but word around Spartanburg HS that day was, he was crazy for thinking he had a chance.
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Re: No, Chump could recruit at UF,UT & Auburn.
Feb 17, 2016, 4:19 PM
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You don't think he really thought he could get feaster do you?
It was obvious it was a move by Muschamp send a message he was here to recruit.
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it was a stupid waste of time either way***
Feb 17, 2016, 5:47 PM
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Re: it was a stupid waste of time either way***
Feb 17, 2016, 9:56 PM
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His time is not very valuable.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 17, 2016, 9:52 PM
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The man killed the program at UF. You think he is going to turn your sucking program into a good one?
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 19, 2016, 9:51 PM
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Bringing players to Texas (when he was there) U.F. and Auburn is an entirely different animal than trying to get them to come to that big dumpster in Cooterville that yall call a football program.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 20, 2016, 7:23 AM
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That's true. But Dabo has shown you don't have to be Texas, Auburn or Florida to recruit at a high level.
You're going to be disappointed if you expect Muschamp to recruit poorly.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 20, 2016, 7:26 AM
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> That's true. But Dabo has shown you don't have to be > Texas, Auburn or Florida to recruit at a high level. > > > You're going to be disappointed if you expect > Muschamp to recruit poorly.
Muschamp may recruit "well" but it will not be as good as uga, ut, and likely Florida is recruiting, and it #### well won't be as good as Clemsons.
Maybe beating scar will actually help our playoff chances this year rather than hurt them by playing a 3-8 team.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 15, 2016, 11:01 PM
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Even if they landed 4 and 5 star recruits, (which they won't) we all know muschump can't coach. Never in a million years will Sc ever bring in the talent Florida does, and the chumpster couldn't win down there. Enough said.
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 16, 2016, 2:04 PM
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Ever watched them Tar and Feather an Ambassador ,. when they lose that 6th game they will finally realize what he did to them .,
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Re: USuC's 2017 recruiting
Feb 17, 2016, 9:57 PM
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He could not win in the East when the East was at its lowest point in 15 years.
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